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spuddle · Post by **spuddle** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:28 am

Well, at least you get what you pay for.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:34 am

dogod wrote: I just find the single pickup tone way too thin/small. Go big, or go home.... hehehehe

May I safely assume Hendrix had a small tone then?

spuddle wrote:Pah, this is where it's at:

http://www.suhrguitars.com/

And by the way, I don't like those celebrity guitars anymore. Mind you, my main axe is an Anderson semi hollow drop top with some flamed maple top and stuff... so that should be some sort of contradiction, but well, most likely I wouldn't buy it again.
The only celebrity guitars I actually still like are PRS's. Some of them got that round and fat tone that should make any Les Paul scare.

Time to finally have my Ibanez Tele (excellent and old, only build for a very short time in the 70s) fixed and also time to finally bring my G&L back to strat-mode (replaced all the PUs when I thought mini-humbuckers were the way to go, what an idiot that Sascha Franck dude is...).

dogod · Post by **dogod** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:40 am

Hendrix, yup... an innovater, a master, a genius, but... for me... not in my top 10 all time fav. guitarists, sorry .... anyways, I thought I was clear.. I LOVE Dave Gilmour (single coil strat) and ANYTHING he plays (melody-wise).. I just don't want to sound like him (tone-wise)

daGuru (R.I.P)

ps. Read this http://www.provide.net/~cfh/seth.html "Seth Lover" wot a great name

hehe

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:05 pm

dogod wrote:Hendrix, yup... an innovater, a master, a genius, but... for me... not in my top 10 all time fav. guitarists, sorry ....

I don't like Hendrix too much either, but some of his tones IMO are to die for (anything semi-clean).

I LOVE Dave Gilmour (single coil strat) and ANYTHING he plays (melody-wise).. I just don't want to sound like him (tone-wise)

I wouldn't mind his tone either, but it's not all *that* tough to get at least halfway there.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:37 pm

I'm a complete fanboy for the band Tool, so Adam Jones is probably my all time favourite guitarist. Just love those songs.

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:47 pm

1991lespaul wrote:Go big, or go home...I like that (I'll have to steal that....lol. I agree with you dogod, I like the soung of a nice humbucker or two in my guitars. I suppose you can purchase a Strat with a humbucker, but I am not a fan of the necks.

There was Strat made in the late 80's called the HM(Heavy Metal) Strat. IT had a much flatter fretboard radius and a screaming humbucker (Dimarzio Distortion) come stock, also with 2 single coils in the mid and neck. I finally got a used one and I had to have a fret job done, and buy all the replacement parts for the Kahler bridge(which are thankfully back in business selling parts) and this thing is BAR-NONE the heaviest sounding guitar I have ever owned, and it is completely capable of playing blues as well. There is something in the simplicity of design of Strats that have great tone, and I NEVER was a Fender man, but this guitar is the BEST guitar I have ever owned, and that being over 20 years of playing and probably over 15 guitars. I Used to swear by Gibby's, I even have a 91 Les Paul, but the Fender is the top dog now. And yes Gibsons have serioulsy lost quality, On almost all the Gibsons the NUts are all different sizes and rarely filed right. PIck up any Gibson, and it will play different than the one right next to it. They are still great guitars becasue the blueprint hasn't changed, but the details have gone out the window... OH yeah f**k AT2.!!haha

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:58 pm

dogod wrote:Hendrix, yup... an innovater, a master, a genius, but... for me... not in my top 10 all time fav. guitarists, sorry .... anyways, I thought I was clear.. I LOVE Dave Gilmour (single coil strat) and ANYTHING he plays (melody-wise).. I just don't want to sound like him (tone-wise)

daGuru (R.I.P)

ps. Read this http://www.provide.net/~cfh/seth.html "Seth Lover" wot a great name hehe

I'm with you dude, and I grew up where hendrix was a god (started playing in 71)...but I don't own any hendrix, because he was often out of tune and I have never been a fan of fuzz...overdrive

fuzz

...but everytime I say I don't care for hendrix I get jumped on by all these super guitarists...and all I say is that he was really just a candle that burned briefly...at the same time there were other (and many too) guitarists who were just as innovative, and whos contributions have also been just as important for guitarists to come. He's been more of a legend than a guitarist, and like most legends his feats seem to be embellished more and more.

Mind you I totally respect his accomplishments and contributions...but I really think that if he were to be new to the scene today he would not be as well recieved...but then he wasn't well recieved back then, he had to go to England to get noticed...cool for his time, a visionary, surely talented...but there were a lot of guitarists then who were the same and lived long enogh to really prove themselves to be more worthy of the idolization he got imo.

Now here comes the flames for me being so horrible a guitarist to say I didn't care for hendrix...

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:07 pm

Hink wrote:
dogod wrote:Hendrix, yup... an innovater, a master, a genius, but... for me... not in my top 10 all time fav. guitarists, sorry .... anyways, I thought I was clear.. I LOVE Dave Gilmour (single coil strat) and ANYTHING he plays (melody-wise).. I just don't want to sound like him (tone-wise)

daGuru (R.I.P)

ps. Read this http://www.provide.net/~cfh/seth.html "Seth Lover" wot a great name hehe
I'm with you dude, and I grew up where hendrix was a god (started playing in 71)...but I don't own any hendrix, because he was often out of tune and I have never been a fan of fuzz...overdrive fuzz ...but everytime I say I don't care for hendrix I get jumped on by all these super guitarists...and all I say is that he was really just a candle that burned briefly...at the same time there were other (and many too) guitarists who were just as innovative, and whos contributions have also been just as important for guitarists to come. He's been more of a legend than a guitarist, and like most legends his feats seem to be embellished more and more.

Mind you I totally respect his accomplishments and contributions...but I really think that if he were to be new to the scene today he would not be as well recieved...but then he wasn't well recieved back then, he had to go to England to get noticed...cool for his time, a visionary, surely talented...but there were a lot of guitarists then who were the same and lived long enogh to really prove themselves to be more worthy of the idolization he got imo.

Now here comes the flames for me being so horrible a guitarist to say I didn't care for hendrix...

I m with you on the fact his accomplishments have been embellished, becasue he really never captured on tape what made him so great, Which was LIVE,, IF Jimi was "on" that night, he was easily the greatest guitarist on the planet, HE could literally "grab" the notes from his soul' outerspace' hell, wherever. ANd make YOU see what he was seeing,, THere is some great live albums out, but there is one that I have which was spectacualr, called STAGES. I t was 4 cd set from 4 years 67,68,69,70. And some of his playing on there was f**king unbelievable. NOt to say his albums sucked, far from it, but he was a live player. Toward the end of his life he was really concentrating on the recordings, which if he had 5 more years, I htink he would have done some real great studio work!

A_Gruesome_Discovery · Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:51 pm

(Bureau Report) Singapore, Feb 24: A teenage guitarist got so carried away while bouncing up and down on his bed mimicking a rock star that he flew out of a third floor window to his death, a Singapore newspaper reported Wednesday.

The Straits Times said Li Xiao Meng, a 16-year-old from China who was studying at Singapore's Hua Business School, was a keen musician who liked to jump up and down while playing his guitar in his hostel room.....

Hopefully Amplitube 2 is stable enough to not crash Windows. *rimshot*
Ok, that was bad.

spuddle · Post by **spuddle** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:12 pm

Amberience wrote:I'm a complete fanboy for the band Tool, so Adam Jones is probably my all time favourite guitarist. Just love those songs.

You would probably like Oceansize. Check 'em out. http://www.oceansize.co.uk/ They were rockin' live.

spuddle · Post by **spuddle** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:16 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:
spuddle wrote:Pah, this is where it's at:

http://www.suhrguitars.com/
And by the way, I don't like those celebrity guitars anymore.

Trying to understand what you mean by 'celebrity guitar'. Just about all manufacturers of guitars will have sign 'celebrities' playing their axes?

azra · Post by **azra** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:05 pm

Killvehicle wrote:
Hink wrote:
dogod wrote:Hendrix, yup... an innovater, a master, a genius, but... for me... not in my top 10 all time fav. guitarists, sorry .... anyways, I thought I was clear.. I LOVE Dave Gilmour (single coil strat) and ANYTHING he plays (melody-wise).. I just don't want to sound like him (tone-wise)

daGuru (R.I.P)

ps. Read this http://www.provide.net/~cfh/seth.html "Seth Lover" wot a great name hehe
I'm with you dude, and I grew up where hendrix was a god (started playing in 71)...but I don't own any hendrix, because he was often out of tune and I have never been a fan of fuzz...overdrive fuzz ...but everytime I say I don't care for hendrix I get jumped on by all these super guitarists...and all I say is that he was really just a candle that burned briefly...at the same time there were other (and many too) guitarists who were just as innovative, and whos contributions have also been just as important for guitarists to come. He's been more of a legend than a guitarist, and like most legends his feats seem to be embellished more and more.

Mind you I totally respect his accomplishments and contributions...but I really think that if he were to be new to the scene today he would not be as well recieved...but then he wasn't well recieved back then, he had to go to England to get noticed...cool for his time, a visionary, surely talented...but there were a lot of guitarists then who were the same and lived long enogh to really prove themselves to be more worthy of the idolization he got imo.

Now here comes the flames for me being so horrible a guitarist to say I didn't care for hendrix...
I m with you on the fact his accomplishments have been embellished, becasue he really never captured on tape what made him so great, Which was LIVE,, IF Jimi was "on" that night, he was easily the greatest guitarist on the planet, HE could literally "grab" the notes from his soul' outerspace' hell, wherever. ANd make YOU see what he was seeing,, THere is some great live albums out, but there is one that I have which was spectacualr, called STAGES. I t was 4 cd set from 4 years 67,68,69,70. And some of his playing on there was f**king unbelievable. NOt to say his albums sucked, far from it, but he was a live player. Toward the end of his life he was really concentrating on the recordings, which if he had 5 more years, I htink he would have done some real great studio work!

Congratulations , you accualy wrote first long post i have ever read whit so many facts and I didnt find a single one agree with.

And I just have to say that that thougt of yours that the world made a legend out of him is completely wrong , he made a legend of himself.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:05 pm

spuddle wrote: Trying to understand what you mean by 'celebrity guitar'. Just about all manufacturers of guitars will have sign 'celebrities' playing their axes?

No, just all that luxury "look at me I'm pretty, famous and expensive" stuff, which the Suhrs, Andersons and whatever have written all over them.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:30 pm

The guitar I'm supposedly building (I'm stuck halfway through and haven't touched it in months and months) has already cost around $800. Once you roll the cost of labour into hand-crafted and hand-finished guitars, the cost price is easily several thousand dollars. I don't think that the original prices of Suhr and Anderson are out of line at all. The problem is that IF (and I don't know because I haven't researched) they now have production models for the same cost, they're not charging for the same things anymore, but are instead charging that much because they can.

If you want a true hand-crafted guitar, you need to get something by several of the lesser-known guitar craftsmen, and they WILL cost you several thousand dollars. Here's one:

http://www.mykaguitars.com/

The Dragonfly "model" (each guitar is one of a kind and unique) is awesome.

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Regarding Hendrix, I LOVE his studio recordings, too. He's definitely in my top 5 favourite guitarists. I don't mind that he's out of tune, I don't mind the fuzz, and I kind of like the off-key vocals.

I don't just "worship" Hendrix the way some people do, but I genuinely respect and -- more importantly -- enjoy his music.

Greg

spuddle · Post by **spuddle** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:58 am

Oh yea, going with the lesser known guys usually means you get your say in every single aspect of the construction process and it should be just right for you.

Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!