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rachmiel · Post by **rachmiel** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:53 pm

> what determines the success of experimental music

the degree to which it pleases, delights, confounds, challenges, transports, surprises a listener. that listener may be you, the composer, or someone else.

Liam_1959 · Post by **Liam_1959** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:54 pm

there are as many different answers to your question as there are people. what do you want your music to say? what sounds do you like/hate? who do you expect to hear this sonorous explotations?

when all else fails, i follow this written form as a guideline.

1. find something metal to hit.

2. add a cardboard box for percussion.

3. record a string instrument, playing random notes. now reverse the track.

4. find a shortwave radio and record it while turning the dial on the medium wave band. when you find an interesting program in a foriegn language, pause for 3 seconds before moving on.

5. mix according to your tastes.

6. release to the public and start making plans for that beach hut in Brighton.

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:51 pm

experimental music is art ... not craft ...

(and ill go with rachmiels definition of when it succeeds if i may)

slainte

rob

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:24 pm

To experiment means to try out new things - new ways of seeing or ways of hearing, doing or experiencing.. But that doesn't mean you always have to change stuff all the time - you might find a new direction or "musical space" and then explore it pretty consistently for some time. For example Shoenberg and Webern developed serialism but Webern chose to experiment within the boundaries created by serialism to see how far he could take it rather than just say "right I've tried that now, what's next?". Experimentalism often requires a lot of self discipline and that discipline can in itself be a source of creativity - for example wheen I composed my own set of 10 Bagatelles I deliberately created my own boundary conditions for the pieces which created the musical equivelent of a "frame" and worked within those.

ross g · Post by **ross g** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:38 pm

Liam_1959 wrote:there are as many different answers to your question as there are people. what do you want your music to say? what sounds do you like/hate? who do you expect to hear this sonorous explotations?

when all else fails, i follow this written form as a guideline.

1. find something metal to hit.

2. add a cardboard box for percussion.

3. record a string instrument, playing random notes. now reverse the track.

4. find a shortwave radio and record it while turning the dial on the medium wave band. when you find an interesting program in a foriegn language, pause for 3 seconds before moving on.

5. mix according to your tastes.

6. release to the public and start making plans for that beach hut in Brighton.

1. like a cymbal?
2. like elvis?
3. like the beatles?
4. like kraftwerk?
5. like (fill in this space)?
6. like "slim fatguy" or whatever that dudes name is? i forgot (edit: it's Fatboy Slim), i saw it on MTV "Cribs"... at the time he was still using an Atari computer and Creator, said he did his hit on that setup!

smartypants aside, it seems todays' experiment yields tommorrows' hit record!

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:49 am

The first rule of experimental music is: You do not talk about experimental music.
The second rule of experimental music is: You do not talk about experimental music.

Groet, Erik

deaf dunderkwac · Post by **deaf dunderkwac** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:04 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
tuz wrote:what determines the success of experimental music?
Availability of groupies.

without groupies, whadda ya left with

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:05 am

dunder wrote:without groupies, whadda ya left with

Experimental music?

deaf dunderkwac · Post by **deaf dunderkwac** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:11 am

I was thinkin along the lines when someone calls a tune of mine "a masterbation of...."

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:38 am

dunder wrote:"a masterbation of...."

Groupies?

deaf dunderkwac · Post by **deaf dunderkwac** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:40 am

lack of...

intel · Post by **intel** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:54 am

I'm really liking all this talk about groupies.

too fuckin' bad I'm married.

Reverse Engineer · Post by **Reverse Engineer** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:59 am

That track reminded me a little of toremoro from Asa-Chang & Junray - Tsu Gi Ne Pu. Pretty cool.

MadPsyance · Post by **MadPsyance** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:14 am

tuz wrote:
and lastly, thanks to spyro, please listen to this.

http://www.spyro.presetbank.net/showcas ... _en_mi.mp3

f**king BRILLIANT MAN! I had fancied myself into doing something similar many times but never got around to doing it. You just documented what I hear when I talk to people! Or when I walk down the street and listen to the sounds. Just out of curiosity...what are they talking about?

mystahr · Post by **mystahr** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:23 am

tetraplan wrote:The first rule of experimental music is: You do not talk about experimental music.
The second rule of experimental music is: You do not talk about experimental music.

Groet, Erik

Good point; it's about doing it! whatever the outcome may be.

I'll shut up then.....

Carry on

experimental: ok..now.. i'm confused....