Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[1991lespaul]

LOL...Wow Squids, you seem to be bit on edge. It's cool, most people appreciate what it is that you do here, so keep it up!

[Squids]

LOL...Wow Squids, you seem to be bit on edge. It's cool, most people appreciate what it is that you do here, so keep it up!

Thanks. I am not that much on edge really. It is just a little frustrating when you are trying to make a point that had good intentions and then you get it thrown back in your face with insults and discriminating judgement. I wasn't trying to hurt anybody. Just talking about something I would otherwise enjoy talking about.

[Hink]

LOL...Wow Squids, you seem to be bit on edge. It's cool, most people appreciate what it is that you do here, so keep it up!

Thanks. I am not that much on edge really. It is just a little frustrating when you are trying to make a point that had good intentions and then you get it thrown back in your face with insults and discriminating judgement. I wasn't trying to hurt anybody. Just talking about something I would otherwise enjoy talking about.

just so you know...the lobstas are best in the spring before they go softshell...

[Squids]

LOL...Wow Squids, you seem to be bit on edge. It's cool, most people appreciate what it is that you do here, so keep it up!

Thanks. I am not that much on edge really. It is just a little frustrating when you are trying to make a point that had good intentions and then you get it thrown back in your face with insults and discriminating judgement. I wasn't trying to hurt anybody. Just talking about something I would otherwise enjoy talking about.

just so you know...the lobstas are best in the spring before they go softshell...

Oh it's on!!!!

To quote Johnny Carson "I did not know that".

[Melodioso]

Been playing around with my AT2 and my 60's Dano and my Tele bass. You know, the bass amp in AT2 is pretty darn good! That combined with the octave pedal is a lot of fun.

When it comes to amps there are an infinite amount of possible characterstics. That's why even from one hardware amp to another of the same model there are differences. Sometimes even the same amp one day vs another (or depending on how old the tubes are even). So, in my opinion if you have a great hardware amp that you love there is NO REASON to get rid of it just because of cool amp sims. It's just a different animal.

What I like about AT2 from the perspective of engineering (rather than as a pro guitarist which I am not) is that you have so many great elements to choose as options to dial in the sound you want. I mean, typically you have on your console and outboard gear some EQ, Compression etc. But, with this you have speaker/cabinet modeling, individual pre-amp, amp tone and power amp modeling on top of a cool self-contain multieffects routing system with some nice models of vintage fx inside (my favorites being models of: CE1 chorus, an optical tremolo!!!, fuzzface-Jimmy!, Dynacomp, Phase100-mine , Tubescreamer-SRV! and the Octaver). The more I get to work with it in the context of making music the more I feel like it is an indispensable producer/engineer and songwriter's tool for your virtual studio set up.

So, I would venture to say that if you are a producer, engineer or songwriter then this is a must-have and that should even be evident to you by the audio demos and the spec list. I mean, LOOK WHAT YOU CAN DO!!!! It is very powerful! One word of warning though. The presets are awesome. But, if you want to make your own you do have to know what you're doing a bit with gain stages. There are a lot of them! It IS possible to sound like total crap if you are making your own presets from scratch and your gain settings are not right. Luckily there are some helpful tips on how to do it. Most people who don't know how to do that can rely mostly on the presets and tweak from there (which I think a lot of people do even on keyboards).

Now for a guitar player who is NOT an engineer/producer or multi-instrumentalist songwriter I think it is a different story. I don't have that perspective personally but I can see that there are quite a few people who have shown up in this thread that seem to be. If you are looking at this as "Is this going to be the holy grail sound I am looking for?" then let me tell you there is only ONE way to find out for sure and that is to try it yourself with your OWN guitar. It depends on how picky you are of course. Although, I think those that are looking for a particular thing already know that.

The reason I am mentioning this is because I try to give my genuine perspective on this stuff. Sure, we DO sell it and I am going to to talk about the seductive side of it (you expect that from me if you know me anyway). But, one thing I don't like is when someone buys something on my recommendation and is dissapointed because it didn't do what they wanted it to and felt they "bought into the hype". One of the reasons I spend my time here on KVR is to help people make GOOD buying decisions, not just the decision to buy. The whole point of intelligent discussion on this stuff (notice I said intelligent... this thread is all over the map from dog poo all the way up to brilliance! ) is to try to understand these tools from different perspectives. From one perspective a product can be the coolest effect plug-in ever! From another perspective it can be "not quite what I am looking for in a guitar amp sound".

So, having spent a while with the release version of AT2 VST in Windows within my Cubase SX3 I can say that if you are a producer/engineer and/or songwriter and doing any style of music that uses amps and vintage fx then this is absolutely not to miss in my opinion. I stand behind that 100%. It just does too many unique things for the money not to have in your set up. But, if you are primarily a guitar player and maybe not much of the other three then IF you are particular about your guitar sound then please DON'T buy it on my recommendation because I have no idea if it will please you or not. Only YOU know that. You wouldn't buy a hardware amp or a guitar first without trying it would you? So, this is probably the same. The only safe thing I can say about that is that with 20,000 amp combinations and models of 82 different pieces of gear in there you are bound to find SOMETHING you like! One would think. But, you never know.

I hope that is a helpful contribution to some people. I already know some people don't want to hear anything about AT2 anymore from me and just want to see it released. All I can say to that is that if you don't want to hear me talk then Ben has this great feature called "mute me" and I suggest you do that so that others who do want to hear what I have to say can appreciate it. The other thing I wanted to say is that is coming in March some time and we're going to be taking pre-orders on www.esoundz.com THIS WEEK!

Thanks for listening. I may still do some demos but I will probably just do them and post them on esoundz. Just more to listen to at least. Cheers!

1) "A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words". And that applies to sound as well. Only a demo can help potential buyers to decide wether or not to buy this sim. When a salesman tries so hard to push a product, that makes me very wary... That's not a good sign.

2) "101 Salesmanship Class". Did someone else ever feel being part of such a class, while reading this tread? I do... It's so repetitive after a while... lol!

3) "The mystery". How can such a great amp sim produce such so-so (and totally mediocre for hi-gain) mp3 demos is still a mystery to me. While we have been promised other demos from Squids for weeks (as soon as the official demos were released), nothing as been done (except the fake mp3 demo). Do what you say or don't say anything. That must be somewhere in this "101 Salesmanship book"

Just my three cents.

P.S: TIP: Do not buy any product, wether it's a car or an amp sim, without trying it out first. You might be disappointed.

[DotNoir]

1) "A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words". And that applies to sound as well. Only a demo can help potential buyers to decide wether or not to buy this sim. When a salesman tries so hard to push a product, that makes me very wary... That's not a good sign.

2) "101 Salesmanship Class". Did someone else ever feel being part of such a class, while reading this tread? I do... It's so repetitive after a while... lol!

3) "The mystery". How can such a great amp sim produce such so-so (and totally mediocre for hi-gain) mp3 demos is still a mystery to me. While we have been promised other demos from Squids for weeks (as soon as the official demos were released), nothing as been done (except the fake mp3 demo). Do what you say or don't say anything. That must be somewhere in this "101 Salesmanship book"

Just my three cents.

P.S: TIP: Do not buy any product, wether it's a car or an amp sim, without trying it out first. You might be disappointed.

Oh, wow, so basically you first bash Squids and then you just repeat his words. IF you would've read Squids posts you would see he's been telling quite a few times people to try things out by themselves before buying if they are in doubt. Oh well, it seems to be a great sport bashing him as of lately.

I'm getting bored by the repetiviness of trying to find every last one of Squids' "mistakes" (I have yet to find any), not the "marketing" which I don't even feel is marketing, since the little I have managed to know Squids through the forums and emails, I'm sure he's excited about this product and not "just trying to sell"

And it didn't cross your mind that he might even have some other things to do than post lips of AT2 to people who will most propably bash them to hell and back when released? I loved his AC30 mp3 demo Showed us what people around here are made of...

It is not his fault IK hasn't published the product yet. And I'm glad they haven't, if they have found things to improve. I'd rather wait (As I'm doing, since I'm getting the ver. 2 for free) than get an unfinished product in my hands. Sure they have fu**ed up a bit with the press, but so what? That's just marketing, what marketing does is not what the programmers do. OMG!!! It hasn't been released in february!!! I'm not goign to get it!!! OGMOGMGOGMGO!!!! It's hilarious to what some people are capable of...

eh, eh, eh... Just my FOUR AND HALF cents... eh hehehe I'm sooo funny

[Squids]

There seems to be no point in doing a demo just for this thread because it was sadly proven it would be a waste of time from the test I did. However, I will do demos this week for esoundz customers on www.esoundz.com The difference is that people going there are more likely to be seriously interested in it as opposed to some here that seem to be just poised and ready to shoot it down no matter what. Even if in fact the clip was a REAL amp (somehow it sounded fake and plastic).

Your salesman 101 condescending crap is too rude to even comment to. I already said what I said about that. You dont like my posts then maybe you shouldn't read them or bite me (woops Freudian slip there) I mean... uhh, errrr, mute me. Yeah that's it.

Whatever. We're only talking about a plug-in let's not forget. Something that is supposed to be fun.

[Melodioso]

DotNoir,

Believe it or not, it is not my intention to "bash" Squids. I just want to offer some couterpoint to all these repetitive sales speeches I am reading here. At best, a forum like this would see users posting reviews of different products. Which is mostly happening in all other threads. Here, the product is not even released and yet a salesman (a nice guy, no doubt!) already comes to try to sell it. That leaves a bad taste in my mouth. What is this hurry about? Squids could wait until the product is officially released, until a demo is out, and then come here to sell it through his webshop. If he has to do it. That would be cool.

[Melodioso]

Squids,

If you consider my posts like condescending crap, you can mute me as well.

As for the mp3 demos, which you said you would post after the official ones were released... (and never did); well yeah, it would be a waste of time. Only a demo version would give us some ideas of the beast. I would never buy a real amp without trying it first. Seems logical. Same goes for an amp sim.

Yes, plug-ins are fun! AT1 is fun, GR2 is fun. And if AT2 is as good as you say, don't worry, people will brag about it, and you will sell plenty!

[dogod]

hehehe... All this talk has got me in the mood for some more tone guessing.... RiffTester http://www.filegone.com/ch7q

Squids, any ideas here? hehe

daGuru (R.I.P)

ps. the filename is NOT a hint hehe

Dry split here: http://www.filegone.com/7hyb

Guess my goddam tone.... grrrrrr *Bump*

[Sascha Franck]

I think that GR2's flexebility is a farce. It looks good, but sounds terrible for any gain work..LOL. IMHO AT1 sounds better than GR2, although it is not as "loaded" as GR1&2.

What sort of gain work would you like to hear?
Note: I don't have the axes for NuMetal sounds, but I could somewhat mimick about anything else.

Greg: After a bit of fooling with the various GR2 "hidden" parameters, I'm slowly getting the feeling that GR2 is indeed on par with the POD XT.

Squids: This has got nothing to do with me liking NI or not. I'm their hardest critic as well - and I defenitely know about the shortcomings in GR2 (yes, there's quite some).
But then, no, I'm not looking for some synth-ish guitar sounds in the first place. This I have other things for (which, btw, is one of the drawbacks of Rig Kontrol, it doesn't work as a MIDI device).
However, just for fun I loaded a few of the AT2 demo sounds into my sequencer and tried to get them halfway done as well in GR2 - not that much of a problem. Sure, they're sounding a bit different, but I like them as much, if not better. Mind you, there's not a whole world of difference though.

[Sascha Franck]

Guess my goddam tone.... grrrrrr *Bump*

No idea - but do you really want to reproduce that boomy stuff (I almost said "crap"...)?
Sorry, but this sound won't work in any mix. It'll cover the bass and large parts of the drums.

[texisthebest]

Will be Amplitube 2 really released this month?
Anyone knows?

[dogod]

Guess my goddam tone.... grrrrrr *Bump*

No idea - but do you really want to reproduce that boomy stuff (I almost said "crap"...)?
Sorry, but this sound won't work in any mix. It'll cover the bass and large parts of the drums.

Remove your bias, plz.... simply guess, thankyou, come again

[Sascha Franck]

Remove your bias, plz.... simply guess, thankyou, come again

My comment *might* have been biased a bit, but I can tell you no halfway experienced mixing engineer would use a sound like that in any mix.
Just give it a try yourself and you'll see.