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dimitar · Post by **dimitar** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:09 pm

beergeek wrote:GR = suck
VAmp = suck
Pod = suck
Amplitube = suck

Sorry, just thought I'd summarize all recent threads on this

Oh, before you ask...

Toneport = suck
GuitarPort = suck
Amp Sims = suck
Real amps if not Mesa/Marshall = suck

I think I've covered most of it...

Oh wait, bass players = suck

Ok, now I've covered it all...

VaiHalen · Post by **VaiHalen** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:33 pm

Can't believe what I read here. Guitar Rig 2 is amazing! It sounds amazing! I have presets for about a hundred incredible sounds. From Malmsteen, Gilbert, Van Halen, Bettencourt, Gary Moore, to B. May, S.R.Vaughan... For blues, Jazz, early Heavy Rock... For not speak about his features, FX etc.
All sounds are clones of what I hear in the records.

Amplitube 1? very bad ugly sounds, artificially, thin, not like a real amp in any way.

Incredible posts I read here, really.

dogod · Post by **dogod** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:37 pm

SHARE those presets NOW!!!

hehehehe

feyshay · Post by **feyshay** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:08 pm

I got rid of my POD XT Live. I thought the amp sims were decent, but I reamp too much and did not like having to go through an extra A/D and D/A conversion. That is why the Pro has such advantages.
I decided to go with Guitar Rig 2 after spending time with Amplitube, Green Machine, and Trash. Guitar Rig 2 is superior to the POD and much easier to use. I don't understand what people are talking about with noise, but then I have a good setup.
I got sounds with Guitar Rig 2 that I could not get with Amplitube. I saw no advantage of Amplitube over Guitar Rig 2. The pedal in GR 2 is expendable, although I can't imagine anybody using that as their preamp anyway. Use a good DI and have good A/D and D/A converters, and you get as much as you can get out of a VST.
Still, a good tube amp, some decent mics and a decent room are the best way to go, but GR 2 gives you versatility and ease.
Of course, the difference between Amplitube and GR 2 may just be knowing how to work them and preference of tones. I think that GR 2 has more versatility (but we'll see if Amplitube 2 can take a step ahead). I doubt it.

beergeek · Post by **beergeek** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:12 pm

juha_p wrote:
beergeek wrote:GR = suck
VAmp = suck
Pod = suck
Amplitube = suck

Sorry, just thought I'd summarize all recent threads on this

Oh, before you ask...

Toneport = suck
GuitarPort = suck
Amp Sims = suck
Real amps if not Mesa/Marshall = suck

I think I've covered most of it...

Oh wait, bass players = suck

Ok, now I've covered it all...
Are yo a drum player?

BTW: Didn't see the GT Player sucked --> so it don't suck?

Juha

No... guitar players are the opposite of suck

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:14 pm

beergeek wrote:
juha_p wrote:
beergeek wrote:GR = suck
VAmp = suck
Pod = suck
Amplitube = suck

Sorry, just thought I'd summarize all recent threads on this

Oh, before you ask...

Toneport = suck
GuitarPort = suck
Amp Sims = suck
Real amps if not Mesa/Marshall = suck

I think I've covered most of it...

Oh wait, bass players = suck

Ok, now I've covered it all...
Are yo a drum player?

BTW: Didn't see the GT Player sucked --> so it don't suck?

Juha
No... guitar players are the opposite of suck

I thought that would be horn players

Waynemendozza · Post by **Waynemendozza** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:40 pm

I did play Marshall Amps quite a few years. Turning it all up to ten makes that sound. BUT, with software that comes along with so many possibilities is not just turning everything up to ten. You have to build the sound yourself. Maybe it's that, why so many people seem not to like amp sims. Take some time and play with all those knobs. You can get out great sounds...

dogod · Post by **dogod** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:49 pm

I have enuff trouble playin' with just one knob

Jason Brian Merrill · Post by **Jason Brian Merrill** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:54 pm

dogod wrote:I have enuff trouble playin' with just one knob

we DONT want to know ...

ludwig · Post by **ludwig** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:58 pm

Marshall is gread, but those Orange amps are also nice stuff, or a vintage Fender amp (if only i hade the money, i would build me an insane rig

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dogod · Post by **dogod** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:59 pm

Actually, there was a minor point there, why should I have to twiddle with 4 or even 40 knobs to get the sound I want? Gimme recognisable presets plz, EVERYTIME. That way I can at least have a nice starting point

Jason Brian Merrill · Post by **Jason Brian Merrill** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:02 pm

dogod wrote:Actually, there was a minor point there, why should I have to twiddle with 4 or even 40 knobs to get the sound I want? Gimme recognisable presets plz, EVERYTIME. That way I can at least have a nice starting point

i totally agree with this...

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:38 pm

I think all guitarists should understand how to build a sound from the ground up. Is it mandatory to "prove" that you're a real guitarist? Of course not... but on the other hand I don't know any guitarists worth their salt who can't get themselves into the right ballpark within a few minutes.

Greg

dogod · Post by **dogod** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:16 pm

So you are sayin' that same guitarist will know how to set-up a mesa vs a marshall vs a vox.... hehehe

ew · Post by ew » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:36 pm

dogod wrote:So you are sayin' that same guitarist will know how to set-up a mesa vs a marshall vs a vox.... hehehe

Yep, that's exactly what Greg's saying- and I agree 100%. Tone first and foremost's in the hands and heart of the player, and not ib the amp...

ew

Amplitude & GuitarRig Vs. Vamp2 & Pod2