Just wondering, what cpu is used on the Receptor?
Thanks.
What cpu is inside the Receptor?
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 18 Nov, 2004 from Orlando, Bitches!
And they want 1500 dollars for that thing?? Are you kididng me???
Why cry about your own desires, when I could have them and leave you standing in the sadness of your own....
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 11 Nov, 2005
I bought an ex demo Muse receptor, looking through its log file, I see that it is running at 1.8Ghz, not very impressive. It says it is a muse hardware version 1. I do not think they have upped the hardware version beyond this yet.
Peter
Peter
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- KVRian
- 1238 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Kentucky
Considering that it does not have to run WinXP or OSX I would say that it can keep up with a PC that uses a much faster processor.
All I need to be happy is one more VSTi.
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 11 Nov, 2005
Actually looking again in the system log I find this.
The processor is an Athlon 2.5GHz
However it does say that it is running at 1.8Ghz, So it seems to be underclocked. Other users might like to check the system log. Use wordpad to open it.
Peter
The processor is an Athlon 2.5GHz
However it does say that it is running at 1.8Ghz, So it seems to be underclocked. Other users might like to check the system log. Use wordpad to open it.
Peter
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- MUSEician
- 682 posts since 20 Aug, 2004 from California
I think the CPU is called Athlon 2.5 and that is because AMD claims that it has the same power as a Pentium running at 2.5 GHz. 1.8 GHz is the correct speed. It is neither under-clocked, nor overclocked.
Dan Timis
Software Developer
Muse Research, Inc.
Software Developer
Muse Research, Inc.
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 18 Nov, 2004 from Orlando, Bitches!
Dan what software is Receptor running. I ask because it does not seem to be of the value Muse claims it to be. I can only assume it runs a stripped version of XP, buyt then I see that the plugs are 'Receptor enabled', so maybe they are specially coded versions, and propietary software?DanTimis wrote:I think the CPU is called Athlon 2.5 and that is because AMD claims that it has the same power as a Pentium running at 2.5 GHz. 1.8 GHz is the correct speed. It is neither under-clocked, nor overclocked.
The way I see you are selling a AthlonXP computer that would retail for maybe $200, for $1300-1500? I cannot see the benefit in that. I could easily build a AMD 3000 with 512 for much less. Throw in a prosumer card (Emus 0404 comes to mind), and a half assed vid card, with an 80 gig drive, that comes to $500, give or take. Cant forget a stripped down version of Windows Ill pick up one of them Chinese copies for $50. Bam, and Im sure itll take your Receptor task for task. The value doesnt seem worth it. Make me a believer.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1159 posts since 26 Feb, 2006 from Fartland
You're not paying for the hardware itself, you're paying for the specifical software/package (including the fancy hardware casing).
I mean, yeah, it's dirt cheap (relatively) to get a PC with superior specs than Receptor. But that's what they say: You can take a Receptor anywhere with no worries, just plug it in and that's it. A pc is a bit more complicated...
It's not only a matter of mhz, the efficiency of the code is very important as well.
You may agree that sometimes it's worth to pay a little more not to have troubles...
There's only one thing I would point: for the price, it could come stuffed with 2Gb RAM. It's cheap these days.
I mean, yeah, it's dirt cheap (relatively) to get a PC with superior specs than Receptor. But that's what they say: You can take a Receptor anywhere with no worries, just plug it in and that's it. A pc is a bit more complicated...
It's not only a matter of mhz, the efficiency of the code is very important as well.
You may agree that sometimes it's worth to pay a little more not to have troubles...
There's only one thing I would point: for the price, it could come stuffed with 2Gb RAM. It's cheap these days.
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 18 Nov, 2004 from Orlando, Bitches!
My point exactly. I wouldnt have too many problems if the specs yielded something substantial, but damn, you gets none for that price! An 80 gig drive costs what, $40 bucks in bulk? RAM? You cant give me 512mb let alone 1 gig? Naw, I cant go for that. But it looks pretty. So do many strippers, but I pay them to leave...
Why cry about your own desires, when I could have them and leave you standing in the sadness of your own....
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1159 posts since 26 Feb, 2006 from Fartland
Patience... Receptor is the beginning of the future...
Who would say a Fantom X has a 133mhz cpu (Although it's a RISC cpu, but anyway, it's 133mhz) and uses obsolete SDRam?
Who would say a Fantom X has a 133mhz cpu (Although it's a RISC cpu, but anyway, it's 133mhz) and uses obsolete SDRam?
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 18 Nov, 2004 from Orlando, Bitches!
An apples and oranges arguement, but Ill let it stick.
Why cry about your own desires, when I could have them and leave you standing in the sadness of your own....
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- KVRian
- 1262 posts since 15 Feb, 2003 from Up the Pennine way
BTW It runs a stripped version of Linux rh9 has an Athlon 2500 and is perfectly capable of doing the job.
I predict Linux is the future for music!
fake
You cant beat people up then have them say "I love you"
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Bryan@MuseResearch Bryan@MuseResearch https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9067
- MUSEician
- 618 posts since 18 Sep, 2003 from Silicon Valley
I've been hesitant to jump in on this thread; it is such a controversial topic. The way I explain it is that if I say my car has a 450HP engine, you probably would be impressed, and think of it as pretty fast. However, if I told you that engine was pushing a 3.5 ton Hummer chassis around, you'd think it was anything but fast or efficient. What we've tried to do is stick a 450HP engine in a sporty, light chassis to get Corvette performance and not Hummer performance. You certainly can put a fast processor in a PC. But is the rest of the thing (OS, apps, # of threads, architecture, etc) a Corvette chassis or aa Hummer chassis?
And when is the last time you checked the specs on your Motif or Triton? I doubt you'd be impressed...
We've tested tons of processors running Receptor, and there really is a sweet spot between processor clock speed, L2 cache and power consumption that I believe we have achieved. Several customers report that Receptor runs plug-ins faster than their PCs or Mac that should in theory have better performance and we attribute that to the fact that having known / optimized hardware with a custom Linux OS and a purpose-built application whose sole purpose in life is running plug-ins, well, there definitely are some efficiencies that come through integration.
It really gets down to the fact that Receptor is not a computer, it is a music instrument and all-in-one solution. For people who need a rugged 2-rack space, great sounding, easy to use way to run plug-ins live, or to supplement the power of their main computer (via UniWire) then Receptor is a great solution.
It might not be the right solution for you, but I totally agree with fake that Linux-based music instruments are our future (like Receptor and Oasys) and if its not right for you today, maybe it will be 6 months or a year from now as the platform continues to evolve and improve. After all, we are primarily a software company, and with 5 software updates under our belt, and over 40 man-years of development into our Muse Machine software, it just keeps getting better and better.
Cheers
Bryan
And when is the last time you checked the specs on your Motif or Triton? I doubt you'd be impressed...
We've tested tons of processors running Receptor, and there really is a sweet spot between processor clock speed, L2 cache and power consumption that I believe we have achieved. Several customers report that Receptor runs plug-ins faster than their PCs or Mac that should in theory have better performance and we attribute that to the fact that having known / optimized hardware with a custom Linux OS and a purpose-built application whose sole purpose in life is running plug-ins, well, there definitely are some efficiencies that come through integration.
It really gets down to the fact that Receptor is not a computer, it is a music instrument and all-in-one solution. For people who need a rugged 2-rack space, great sounding, easy to use way to run plug-ins live, or to supplement the power of their main computer (via UniWire) then Receptor is a great solution.
It might not be the right solution for you, but I totally agree with fake that Linux-based music instruments are our future (like Receptor and Oasys) and if its not right for you today, maybe it will be 6 months or a year from now as the platform continues to evolve and improve. After all, we are primarily a software company, and with 5 software updates under our belt, and over 40 man-years of development into our Muse Machine software, it just keeps getting better and better.
Cheers
Bryan
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- KVRist
- 309 posts since 11 Sep, 2005 from Virginia
On another thread on this forum Ted R. demonstrated that he runs 16 plugins simultaneously. I don't care if he has a .000005Mhz or a 5000000Ghz machine, that is amazing! I can't do this on my 3.2Ghz PC running XP with a 512Mb Video card, 2MB RAM and a Fireface 800 and running Nuendo 3. I know that the more plugins I add on my PC the more crackling noises I hear, not to mention that Ivory runs out of memory occasionally and Nuendo crashes. This is no fun at all! In addition my Receptor sounds as good as my plugins (if not better) played through my Fireface 800...and my Fireface is state of the art.