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I just got Ableton 5 myself, (had tried demos way back at 3 but found it wasn't sophisticated enough with midi editing) my how that has all changed. It is an inspiring piece of software, I still refuse to use any external vstis in it so I think I'll get operator as well...but sweet Jesus....I can't imagine someone being dissapointed even less than immediatley inspireD would surprise me.. I tend to create way more epic stuff in Ableton... (I'm still on my first trak though)

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Kriminal wrote:Im looking into other hosts, but im very fussy about the way i work, and im not prepared to spent a long time learning a new app, so it needs to be...

Similar to Orion, pattern/grid based composing (i was brought up using Roland/Boss stuff so the grid and pattern method is a piece of cake for me)

Whats about these days that fits into that kinda 'ball park'

I think only eXT is left then
My other host is Bruce Forsyth

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funny that eXT wasn't mentioned in this thread yet ;)

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M'Snah wrote:funny that eXT wasn't mentioned in this thread yet ;)
it was, page2.

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I don't quite get the idea of eXT being a "pattern based host"... but then I don't quite get the idea of eXT at all yet!

(More effort required on my part, no doubt!)

And perhaps the much anticipated version 2 will be a better integrated programme :wink:

In the meantime, I hope you're enjoying the Ableton demo Krim 8)

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headquest wrote:
And perhaps the much anticipated version 2 will be a better integrated programme :wink:
what's not 'integrated' enough for you about eXT?

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something tells me he won't like P5 or Live

but then again, last saturday something told me to drink a stupendous amount of guinness, so maybe I should stop listening to it
My other host is Bruce Forsyth

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@ Jens:
Just couldn't work out the relationship between the (very nice) modular section and the internal workings of the (not so nice imho) sequencer. I get the impression from the various posts about version 2 that this may be improved. Looking forward to demoing version 2, and hoping it will all make more sense to me then 8)

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M'Snah wrote:funny that eXT wasn't mentioned in this thread yet ;)
It was page 4 by me:
mahtazz wrote:EnergyXT has patterns, too.

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Well, doesnt matter, ive tried ext before, doesnt suit the way i work.

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ever looked at sq4?
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hi there, refering to the original question
Im looking into other hosts, but im very fussy about the way i work, and im not prepared to spent a long time learning a new app, so it needs to be...

Similar to Orion, pattern/grid based composing (i was brought up using Roland/Boss stuff so the grid and pattern method is a piece of cake for me)

Whats about these days that fits into that kinda 'ball park'
i think ext would be the best choice for your host, mainly because it does pattern bassed sequencing extremely well, which is not imidiately obvious at first, but extremely flexible

in EXT you can use a midi part with a different midi "patterns" assingned to a different key on your keyboard. these can be triggered live by playing the keyboard, or can be sequenced in the piano roll editor of the sequencer module, which essentially works like a "playlist". EXT also features a "live mode" feature in the sequencer, but as i have never used it i cant comment on how it works, but imagine it works similar to ableton.

it is also worth mentioning that midi can be edited in the piano roll in a similar way to how trackers input notes, because the step edit mode alows full interaction with the computer keyboard.

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Kriminal wrote:Im looking into other hosts, but im very fussy about the way i work, and im not prepared to spent a long time learning a new app, so it needs to be...

Similar to Orion, pattern/grid based composing (i was brought up using Roland/Boss stuff so the grid and pattern method is a piece of cake for me)

Whats about these days that fits into that kinda 'ball park'
Orion, FLS, Live, or Project5.

You make the call.

BTW, I thought you loved using Orion. What happen?!? 8)

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So Far, the demo's i tried today were very uninspiring, and some had way too much of a learning curve (although one may be of use for live work...)

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