KVR Audio

tconrardy · Post by **tconrardy** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:01 am

BONES wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Cant see what all the fuss is about really, and the GUI is way too small as it is. Spent about an hour messing with it, just sounds like an average synth to me.
Cool, I thought it might just have been me. I read about half the pages and didn't see anyone give any definitive reasons why its good but I figured that getting 12 or 13 pages in a day was probably a good indication that it has something to offer but...
... around half the GUI is devoted to effect parameters so that's krap for starters. Then everything has its own complex envelope, plus the 2 assignable ones, that has to be worked over to get what you want from it. I played around with it for a while without reading the manual and couldn't really get it to do what I wanted. Since I RTFM I've worked out why that may have been so I might be able to get something from it tonight but there was certainly nothing in the presets that got me anywhere near as excited as the rest of you and the GUI/workflow is hopeless. Still, its a reasonable first effort.

hey Bones...did you try my bank yet? I got some nice stuff from it, but a lot of it is ambient stuff and not your style, but I also got some great distorted stuff. One of the tricks is to use the random generator , and then tweak the Oatmeal out of it.I got some very usable sounds, and not all of them "spacy", but usuable B$B sounds.

http://tamw.atari-users.net/TC_Oatmeal_1.zip

Tim

Fuzzpilz · Post by **Fuzzpilz** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:03 am

Vendaval wrote:Hi!

This VSTi is fantastic!!

... But I can't see all the knobs in my screen... the last ones of down are not seen!!

My screen resolution: 1280x800.

Greetings,

What host are you using? Can I have a screenshot of the problem?

Qucifer · Post by **Qucifer** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:24 am

Holy CRAP!!!

The gauntlet has been thrown down...

Amazing job!!!

Qucifer · Post by **Qucifer** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:26 am

Put a serious user interface in front of it and you've got a product on your hands!

Have you ever considered open-sourcing something like this? I bet a lot of people could learn some stuff...

tomg · Post by **tomg** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:30 am

BONES wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Cant see what all the fuss is about really, and the GUI is way too small as it is. Spent about an hour messing with it, just sounds like an average synth to me.
Cool, I thought it might just have been me. I read about half the pages and didn't see anyone give any definitive reasons why its good but I figured that getting 12 or 13 pages in a day was probably a good indication that it has something to offer but...
... around half the GUI is devoted to effect parameters so that's krap for starters. Then everything has its own complex envelope, plus the 2 assignable ones, that has to be worked over to get what you want from it. I played around with it for a while without reading the manual and couldn't really get it to do what I wanted. Since I RTFM I've worked out why that may have been so I might be able to get something from it tonight but there was certainly nothing in the presets that got me anywhere near as excited as the rest of you and the GUI/workflow is hopeless. Still, its a reasonable first effort.

You are wrong as usual, Bones. It may be the best sounding synth sence impOSCar. The GUI is not great but it's usable and it can be fixed. As a matter of fact he said he'd make it fully skinable. Do not start your crap in this thread.

rokkon · Post by **rokkon** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:33 am

just a quck question.. is it somehow possible to pitch-LFO only one oscillator?

rocketman5 · Post by **rocketman5** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:35 am

Vendaval wrote:... But I can't see all the knobs in my screen... the last ones of down are not seen!!

I'm having a similar problem with the "Nord" skin in Tracktion. The bottom of the GUI is missing from just below the arpeggiator section. The "original" skin works fine, so I think it has something to do with the "Nord" skin.

Rellik · Post by **Rellik** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:41 am

http://www.tjhsst.edu/~alederer/Enjoy%2 ... neface.omp

Wurrrrllyyyyy...

This came directly out of the randomizer, panning, deep tone, tines, and all. Maybe not the best wurly you've ever heard, but certainly pretty good for being a random patch with a random name

Also, I made this comment earlier, but it was in a really long post, so I will reiterate it more succinctly in the hope that the developer will catch sight of it (:D):

Fuzzpilz: have you considered taking a look at the monophonic-note-preference (what note Oatmeal returns to when you are holding down several notes in mono mode and you release the currently sounding note)? I don't really understand how it's currently doing it, but traditionally a synth will return to the next most recently played note - if it's currently functioning as intended then I wouldn't suggest that you should divert the synth from what you intended, but it could also be an oversight.

Qucifer · Post by **Qucifer** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:52 am

Another thing I like about Oatmeal is that it's incredibly playable...

(for those of us who enjoy keyboards in addition to piano rolls and pattern grids)

Those Tim Conrardy patches are amazing, too!

Vendaval · Post by **Vendaval** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:52 am

Hi!

Here is the screenshot.

http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captura2wi.jpg

Greetings

Qucifer · Post by **Qucifer** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:55 am

Rellik wrote: Wurrrrllyyyyy...

This came directly out of the randomizer, panning, deep tone, tines, and all. Maybe not the best wurly you've ever heard, but certainly pretty good for being a random patch with a random name

The patches it generates are so interesting that it makes you not care about emulating anything anymore.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:01 am

I never did care about emulating anything.

tomg wrote:You are wrong as usual, Bones. It may be the best sounding synth sence impOSCar.

Why? Because you f**king say so? What sort of krap is that? Back it up with some facts. i told you why I didn't find anything special about it but all I hear from the rest of you is that it has a great random patch feature. WTF!?!

Qucifer · Post by **Qucifer** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:06 am

tomg wrote:You are wrong as usual, Bones. It may be the best sounding synth sence impOSCar.

BONES wrote: Why? Because you f**king say so? What sort of krap is that? Back it up with some facts. i told you why I didn't find anything special about it but all I hear from the rest of you is that it has a great random patch feature. WTF!?!

How does one back up an artistic opinion with facts?

It's got that undefinable "something"... In a huge way.

Rellik · Post by **Rellik** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:09 am

I plan to make a bank of patches as well

partially for my own use - this seems like a great synth for jamming with friends, which having built-in effects really helps with. Synth1 happens to be a great synth for playing around, too - I'll probably still use it more than Oatmeal, since the simplicity and bold sound are of especially great value when trying to program patches on the fly that you can hear over guitars, but Oatmeal is truly a fantastic synth that is providing me with some very useful sounds

BONES, if you don't think this synth is for you, turn up the distortion

(on per voice, prefilter mode). I haven't read the documentation, but I know the limit knob on the distortion makes it sound great when turned up high

Mikomi · Post by **Mikomi** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:14 am

It's a good synth, especially the oscillator painting part. If Krim and Bones don't like it, then thats fine, everyones intitled to thier own opinion.

I personally quite like it. I don't think it's the best synth ever, but its certainly of of the nicer ones I've heard. Great work.

Oatmeal (mediocre free VSTi) - 37-4 (fixed Renoise problem)