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fhinspectit · Post by **fhinspectit** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:41 am

I personally use sonar and fls, but I know here in america pro tools is king, even if we do not want to admit it. My question is, why does everyone rip on it so much. 32 track limitation? how many normally use more than that anyways. fxexpansion? pretty much all programs nowadays have some sort of wrapper in them. It can't be the price, pt m-powered is priced between 200-250 dollars, add the fxexpansion and your looking at max 325. I do not use pt but I know I will eventually purchase it, I just find it curious how everyone hates on a product so much when it seems to be one of the most popular and user friendly ones on the market. DON"T FORGET IT IS "INDUSTRY STANDARD"

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:43 am

fhinspectit wrote:I personally use sonar and fls, but I know here in america pro tools is king, even if we do not want to admit it

Dude, EFF "Industry Standard". Sonar is very capable, as is FL Studio. THere are so many top notch hosts out there, it's best to just try a few out and use your favorite.

Sickle · Post by **Sickle** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:45 am

fhinspectit wrote:DON"T FORGET IT IS "INDUSTRY STANDARD"

whatever..

DaveSmom · Post by **DaveSmom** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:50 am

Pro Tools = BLOAT

lex_strooder · Post by **lex_strooder** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:59 am

fhinspectit wrote:I personally use sonar and fls, but I know here in america pro tools is king, even if we do not want to admit it.

... i heard Digital Performer is the top in us market !!!

fhinspectit wrote:My question is, why does everyone rip on it so much. 32 track limitation? how many normally use more than that anyways. fxexpansion? pretty much all programs nowadays have some sort of wrapper in them. It can't be the price, pt m-powered is priced between 200-250 dollars, add the fxexpansion and your looking at max 325. I do not use pt but I know I will eventually purchase it, I just find it curious how everyone hates on a product so much when it seems to be one of the most popular and user friendly ones on the market. DON"T FORGET IT IS "INDUSTRY STANDARD"

well... your way of putting it will make people rip on it...
yes, in some context its the "industry standard" but not the version you are refering to (TDM vs LE/Mpow).

most of the blames are on the closed prop system (digi or m-audio card)... much like the PC vs Mac discussion...

my only advice is; if you do alot of recordings and seldom midi, then it rules...

SonicBreeze · Post by **SonicBreeze** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:06 am

It is hardware dependant as a result NOT CRACKABLE, the biggest minus point. so it is not popular among net. SIMPLE.

there is no H2O for pro-tools sadly.

Pros are bound to spend huge money so they can afford it.

BTW serious people dont want M-powered S-powered and P-powered pro-tools.

Just kidding

fhinspectit · Post by **fhinspectit** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:11 am

version 7 seems to have addressed midi greatly. I know most studios use TDM systems. but ptle and m-powered outsale cubase and sonar in the states. m-powered now gives pt users more options in interfaces. I know all the host are great but I just am beginning to think there must be something to pro tools that makes alot of people use it and at the same time other hate on it so much

MattmaN · Post by **MattmaN** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:40 pm

Nothing wrong with it,but why would you want it when you have Sonar?
Sonar is a much more powerfull daw overall.

advaya · Post by **advaya** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:47 pm

I'd have thought protoolsuser would have chimed in by now!

LOLOLO!11!1OLOOMFGROFL!!PTROXORZLOL!!1OLOROFLWTF!!!

Damn I miss him.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:17 pm

i do.

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:20 pm

I've made it as far as semi-pro tools. Not quite the full ticket but you do get sneering rights over the amateur-tools users.

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:28 pm

I did use Protools in the past. A damn fine system if you're in to audio recording. By far the best in my opinion. But i am mostly using VST nowadays so now i run Cubase.

Those "Protools sucks" kids don't know shit. They're trying to compare a hammer to a screwdriver.

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:28 pm

The only reason Pro Tools has gotten so big is becasue it is in the major studios, although it is the HD systems, not the project Digi oo2 or Mbox or so forth. Even though these are good products, they only sell becasue of the name. They are no better than any other big hosts are good hardware..

A guy in my band who is just getting into recording and so forth wants ProTools.. WHy? "casue it s whats in the big studios." I try to tell him it isn't the "best" just because of the name,, but he wants the name, like an idiot and will probably go buy the Digi oo2.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:32 pm

Killvehicle wrote:The only reason Pro Tools has gotten so big is becasue it is in the major studios, although it is the HD systems, not the project Digi oo2 or Mbox or so forth. Even though these are good products, they only sell becasue of the name. They are no better than any other big hosts are good hardware..

actually the 002's arent all that hot, we have 20 of em and they have all gone wrong in one way or another at some point

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:36 pm

vurt wrote:
Killvehicle wrote:The only reason Pro Tools has gotten so big is becasue it is in the major studios, although it is the HD systems, not the project Digi oo2 or Mbox or so forth. Even though these are good products, they only sell becasue of the name. They are no better than any other big hosts are good hardware..
actually the 002's arent all that hot, we have 20 of em and they have all gone wrong in one way or another at some point

Thats actually kinda of my point. Pro Tools isnt any better than any other good products. All products can go dick-up. Although I must say if I ever get the money I would get an HD system. THose should be the most stable and powerful I would think..??

does anyone here use pro tools?