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jens · Post by **jens** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:51 am

muzycian wrote:
jens wrote:beta 5 is the first beta I'm testing so chances are I'm asking for things that have already been discussed to death...

- I'm surprised there seems to be no mouse-wheel support at all...
Is it planned for v1? I think no modern sequencer should go without...
Right, coming very soon!

great!

What's COFX Copier? Is it a VST plugin? (can't find a link...)

http://www.concretefx.com/Copier.zip

- there is no indication nor do I seem to be able to influence which track I am recording to

Indeed. A new recording is placed on a new track. Then you can move the recording to where you want.

Imo this needs to be changed to the usual way (clicking on a track header highlights it and selects the track)

- there seems to be no way to solo tracks
Control-click (Osx: command-click) on a track mute.

I see - but please consider to add a button

- even if snapping is off I can't draw several volume-events in one go
(e.g. to draw a fade)
For notes you mean?

yes - volume-events of midi-notes

- I don't think I like the way automation is drawn
Breakpoint automation curves are on the whishlist, for a later version.

great!

- will there be support for audio-recording?
There already is

Activate the little audio button near the record button in the Transport Panel!

Also note that you can right-click (osx: control-click) the record button for specific options like which inputs to record from etc...

Cheers,

Jo

- missed that - great!

- but please consider to add a button for the input-options (you do not want to answer the same dumb questions over and over again, or do you?

)

> DiGiT < · Post by **> DiGiT <** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:24 pm

swarm synth just crashed it and then on next startup said it would be ignored, but wasnt. same with anarchy rhythms. yes i was using them since beta 1 or 2.

i would like to see a method of collection for all used samples to the project folder, or a way to imbed them in files so i can just hand off the project to a freind on the net.

growing more comfortable with this program by the day!

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:44 pm

Wow, I tried out Luna and I liked it immediately. It is easy to use and has a very well structured GUI. The only bug I found yet: It couldn't scan Aureon's UFO light try-out vst'i. Luna was the only sequencer/ host, that only refused one plug-in. That's fantastic!
Thanks a lot!

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:09 pm

muzycian wrote:Google didn't tell me much about "GrMach2b063".

Green Machine 2, beta 63 (the last one before the developer added copy protection to the beta and announced the price

).

Mmm, if i install this style.css, i get a too large font...

Then set your browser font size so that it's comfortable. That's the whole point of cascading style sheets

.

Calum · Post by **Calum** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:33 pm

muzycian wrote:
Calum wrote:-> OSX: should have smoother GUI now (please feedback)
Beta 5 now much smoother in OSX (10.4.5)
Great, thanks for feeding back!

except for the one glitch I have spotted so far:

Select a group of midi notes (or all notes) in part editor and try to move them - results in strange interfernce pattern in GUI
Just checked dragging group of notes with beta 5 on 10.3.2.
Don't see a problem.

Can you make a screenshot (command+shift+3) of that?

Navigation is now much more intuitive and all your tweaks seam to be making Luna very stable indeed. I have not made it crash yet, but I will keep trying!

Cheers,

Jo

Jo

I have sent you some screen dumps. On further investigation, it appears the interference pattern only ocurs at certain magnifications and only when a large number of notes are selected (I used the midi sample you provided in Luna with no player selected). While attempting to re-create the effect I did eventually manage to crash Luna once by selecting all notes and I got the vertical zoom only, to freeze at max magnification.

System is OSX 10.4.5 on 2GHz PowerPC G5 iMac with 1Gb RAM (no other apps runnning).

Let me know if you require further info.

Calum

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:18 am

Calum wrote:I have sent you some screen dumps. On further investigation, it appears the interference pattern only ocurs at certain magnifications and only when a large number of notes are selected (I used the midi sample you provided in Luna with no player selected). While attempting to re-create the effect I did eventually manage to crash Luna once by selecting all notes and I got the vertical zoom only, to freeze at max magnification.

System is OSX 10.4.5 on 2GHz PowerPC G5 iMac with 1Gb RAM (no other apps runnning).

Let me know if you require further info.

Calum

Thanks for the screenshots Calum!

I think i found what's going wrong.

Will be improved!

johnnytluxury · Post by **johnnytluxury** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:36 am

Muzycian, i dont have the beta, but form the specs, it seems the project is gonna come out of the box a bit limited. For one: Why only 32 bit floating pioint? wuith the advent of 64 bit sytems just round the corner, i would think youd wnat to have a 64 bit version wiating.
Also a screen shot would be nice. Im not one for the prettiness of Traction or Live, and to be honest Cubase and Logic have the buisiness-meets-pleasure image down perfect. Im in the market for a new host, and I wnat something that appeals to eye as well as to hand. And how does one become a Beta tester?

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:39 am

johnnytluxury wrote:For one: Why only 32 bit floating pioint? wuith the advent of 64 bit sytems just round the corner, i would think youd wnat to have a 64 bit version wiating.

32bit fp is enough!

And how does one become a Beta tester?

it's in the first post of this thread!

johnnytluxury · Post by **johnnytluxury** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:09 am

jens wrote:
johnnytluxury wrote:For one: Why only 32 bit floating pioint? wuith the advent of 64 bit sytems just round the corner, i would think youd wnat to have a 64 bit version wiating.

32bit fp is enough!

ITS NEVER ENOUGH MANNNN!!!!!! lol. Seriously, whats gonna happen when 64 bit actually is a real part of our life, and not a figment of rich boy excessiveness?

kubohisa · Post by **kubohisa** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:49 pm

I use windows.It's fine.

Can use 4VSTi.but,Save Vst seting & midi data & Save Audio file to make music.

But,I hope use VSTi stereo.

kubohisa · Post by **kubohisa** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:14 pm

Use stereo VSTi to use pan.sorry....

kubohisa · Post by **kubohisa** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:21 pm

I hope copy & paste MIDI Sequence.

and "Set Loop Length" to can't reset start position.

You can press Stop to "all notes stop".Free beta 5 can't stop long note.Press stop to play stop.But,midi data don't Note off.

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muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:45 pm

Kubohisa, thanks a lot for your feedback!

I'm sorry but i'm having a hard time understanding your messages.

I'm not sure what you mean...

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:27 pm

jens wrote:http://www.concretefx.com/Copier.zip

Can't reproduce any problem here... It loads and plays fine!

Just like Swarm Synth!

Of course that are the toughest issues: the ones that only happen in certain conditions.

I'm even not yet sure whether it's on Luna's end or on the plugs' end...

Indeed. A new recording is placed on a new track. Then you can move the recording to where you want.
Imo this needs to be changed to the usual way (clicking on a track header highlights it and selects the track)

In both cases you have to "make a little move".

In the standard way, it's before recording; In Luna's way after the recording.

Not to be inverse, but tracks don't have much properties in Luna, there just simple lanes, that's all.

So i think then it's a strange to highlight tracks only for indicating the destination of the recording. Newbies even don't know that they should!

So that's why i chose for the no-knowledge-required approach.

And for the more advanced users like you and me: just move that recording to another track, if you want.

- even if snapping is off I can't draw several volume-events in one go
(e.g. to draw a fade)

On the whishlist.

- will there be support for audio-recording?
There already is

Activate the little audio button near the record button in the Transport Panel!
- missed that - great! - but please consider to add a button for the input-options (you do not want to answer the same dumb questions over and over again, or do you? )

Well, in other apps you have to switch tracks, and arm and dis-arm recordings all the time...
So it seems that a minimum of admin is inevitable.

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:41 pm

pljones wrote:
muzycian wrote:Google didn't tell me much about "GrMach2b063".
Green Machine 2, beta 63 (the last one before the developer added copy protection to the beta and announced the price ).

OK, thanks, downloading...

Mmm, if i install this style.css, i get a too large font...
Then set your browser font size so that it's comfortable. That's the whole point of cascading style sheets .

OK, but why do i have to change my browser's font settings then?

It works well wherever i surf. Including the mutools website and luna's documentation.

I'm not getting it i think... (maybe i need a HTML course?)

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