IS THIS RECEPTOR'S BIG BROTHER...look at this!

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DanTimis wrote:Keep in mind that this is just one guy. I'm sure he is very talented and capable, but right now it looks like he is alone:

http://beb.digitalaudio.free.fr/pages/aboutuspag.html
but really Dan, you're a software guy. Software is the real value in the Receptor.

The hardware part isn't that unique now days. Muse could license your software to other hardware manufacturers and grow the market for standalone VST players and still make a bundle on plugarama.

Unless you're trying to do the "Apple" thing and control the hardware, OS, and applications. You'll find that now that you've started the market, other systems are going to jump in out of the woodwork. Some may do well because they are small companies, with brilliant people that saw the opportunity that you've created. They won't have legacy to hold them back from meeting the market demands or differentiating them from you. They won't be as good or have a plugarama at first. But they'll be competition, have something, like price that attracts users, and could eventually dominate the market.

A trimmed down XP might actually be up to the challenge, but there's a lot of work to getting just the OS and applications to run as smooth as the Receptor does. I bet you'd get some good hardware manufacturers jumping in if they could just license your OS, and software.

There's lots of examples of other companies who didn't catch on to this in history. I can't think of too many that were able to dominate the hardware/software/services long term in an discipline without licensing.

I heard Apple is doing real well with iTunes, and that's it's more profitable than their computer business now. And I've heard speculation that they could run windows eventually. Oh the horror of it, but they should have licensed OS-X to other hardware producers.

IMHO worth less than $.02 :)

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The GUI looks remarkably like the Muse one - wonder if they're pissed off about that...

Certainly seems cheeky!

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Watto wrote:The GUI looks remarkably like the Muse one - wonder if they're pissed off about that...

Certainly seems cheeky!

;-)
If they're smart, MUSE will welcome the competition and see growth in the market as proving the VST Host concept is a sound one.

I own a BOSE Personalized Amplification System and some posted a link to a new competitor offering a portable line array speaker system. The Bose guys went out of their way to wish the competitor well and pointing out that growth in that market will help everyone. I thought that was a class act.

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Hey Tom,

I've got a PAS as well - I'm endorsed by Bose, actually.

It ROCKS!!!

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Watto wrote:Hey Tom,

I've got a PAS as well - I'm endorsed by Bose, actually.

It ROCKS!!!

;-)
It sure does. I've only had it for a few weeks and used it twice. The first time was in a small church seating 200 and the next time was in a church seating 800. I was amazed at how well it performed in both of those situations. The secret, I think, is in taking the time to select the right presets.

I believe that we will eventually need two in order to handle orchestral background sounds adequately. Right now it works great with the Korg SP-500 in mono.

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raintalk wrote:
DanTimis wrote:Keep in mind that this is just one guy. I'm sure he is very talented and capable, but right now it looks like he is alone:

http://beb.digitalaudio.free.fr/pages/aboutuspag.html
but really Dan, you're a software guy. Software is the real value in the Receptor.

The hardware part isn't that unique now days...........
You are absolutely right. I don't disagree with you at all. You don't have to design everything. You can take a lot of off-the-shelf components, assemble them, add a little bit of something unique, and have a great product. It is even possible to sell music computers running XP and be successful. Look at Open Labs with Neko.

But, it takes a lot of resources to sell hardware, even when it is completely off-the-shelf. At first, you need a lot of money to buy inventory. You need a warehouse. You need people to build your products. You need shipping and receiving. You need customer support. You need technical support.

Open Labs and Muse are small companies compared to let's say, Digidesign, but are huge compared to one guy in his bedroom.

It is possible that he is going to go to Musik Messe in Frankfurt where he is going to find investors, and start a real company. But, as of today, judging from his website, it is a guy in his bedroom. At least that is the impression that his website gives right now. And if I'm wrong in my impression, he is doing a very poor marketing job.
Dan Timis
Software Developer
Muse Research, Inc.

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DanTimis wrote:And if I'm wrong in my impression, he is doing a very poor marketing job.
He's doing a poor marketing job in any case since all we have is an announcement with sketchy specs and virtually nothing more-- even on the web site!

But, of course, all of that can change in a very short period of time.

What makes the Receptor unique to me is the utilitarian design of the front of the unit giving the user access to control without having to function as a general purpose computer. That is appealing.

The reason I've opted to wait before buying a Receptor isn't the size of the company or the marketing... it's the design decisions INSIDE the box that give rise to messages about 'choking' and a feeling that things are locked down too tightly to protect Muse and plug-in vendors rather than the users. That, too, could change in a very short period of time. But, until it does I would think that Muse had better be looking over their shoulders on a constant basis.

You had a buyer on the hook for a while. You could still get him back on the hook with a beefier system and more user oriented extensibility becuase I REALLY like the concepts behind Receptor. In fact, from a concept point of view I've found nothing else to match it.

Just the Title of this thread says it all. I didn't start the thread; but, I do observe that the person who did asked the question, "Is this the BIG BROTHER to Receptor" not, "Is this a PEER to Receptor." That implies, I think, that they saw a marked difference in power and capabilities.

Listening is a good thing.

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DanTimis wrote: And if I'm wrong in my impression, he is doing a very poor marketing job.
Maybe you too! As I tried to get the specs for receptor (processor speed, memory, architecture), and never got a straight awnser even after e-mailing. So what it tells me is that you use a very slow processor and try to hide that fact? or maybe you publish proper specs now on your website?

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waveriderarts wrote:
DanTimis wrote: And if I'm wrong in my impression, he is doing a very poor marketing job.
Maybe you too! As I tried to get the specs for receptor (processor speed, memory, architecture), and never got a straight awnser even after e-mailing. So what it tells me is that you use a very slow processor and try to hide that fact? or maybe you publish proper specs now on your website?
Here are the specs for CPU, RAM, and hard drive:

http://www.plugorama.com/customer/kb.php?kbid=04082302

Other specs are available. There is always room for improvement in terms of how easy is to find the specs, but they are available.
Dan Timis
Software Developer
Muse Research, Inc.

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playing with the trial version now, and it looks very promising...especially since they offer an upgrade discount. :)

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whoops, that was a reply to a post about one page ago. sorry for the confusion.

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