Thats what one gets when recyclingttoz wrote:i am getting warning messages about SPECTRA'S limitations after i get the warning about the MPL's limitations...even though spectra was uninstalled ages ago....so ther's a conflict there somewhere
Kjaerhus MPL-1 Master Limiter is NOW AVAILABLE!
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- KVRist
- 478 posts since 14 Jan, 2003 from Denmark
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- KVRian
- 665 posts since 7 Jan, 2003 from somewhere between 50 and 60Hz
it sound very nice, or should I say it doesn't sound at all, as it can be totally transparent. Definitely the best limiter I've ever tried (I haven't tried many though)
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- KVRian
- 665 posts since 7 Jan, 2003 from somewhere between 50 and 60Hz
by the way Torben, I love the GUI! Extremely professional looking, I hope you adopt this look for future plugins. Not that our other plugs look crap, they were fine, but this GUI is definitely on another level
- KVRAF
- 2488 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
My god, sorry to annoy everyone in here, but MPL-1 is a dream! My mixes are already louder compared to professional mixes without distortion. I use MPL-1 on several groups, and then again over the whole mix.
One minor thing i'd like to suggest, the Gain's output range reaches from -5db to +5dB. When using it on a group, i'd like to set the output level down to -15db, this leaves me enough db for adjustments.
A simple example:
Track1: Bassdrum > Send1
Track2: Snaredrum > Send1
Track3: Hihats > Send1
Track4: Bass > Send 2
Track5: Strings > Send3
Send1: MPL-1 > Send 2
Send2: MPL-1 > Send 3
Send3: MPL-1
In this case, Send3 is the final mix. Now, i'd like to set both the output levels from MPL-1 used on Send 1 and Send 2 down to -15db (or lower), because send3 receives two limited signals. With the actual version, both signals send from send1 and send2, have a output level of -5db. Send3 receives therefore 2 inputs with -5db signals, which doesn't leave me much dynamic for adjustments.
I simply can lower the volume by using a volume effect after each send-track, but to have this feature in MPL-1 would be great!
I guess the reason for having an output-level from -5db to +5db in MPL-1 is because it was designed as a mastering tool and not as a track effect as i used it in my example above.
One minor thing i'd like to suggest, the Gain's output range reaches from -5db to +5dB. When using it on a group, i'd like to set the output level down to -15db, this leaves me enough db for adjustments.
A simple example:
Track1: Bassdrum > Send1
Track2: Snaredrum > Send1
Track3: Hihats > Send1
Track4: Bass > Send 2
Track5: Strings > Send3
Send1: MPL-1 > Send 2
Send2: MPL-1 > Send 3
Send3: MPL-1
In this case, Send3 is the final mix. Now, i'd like to set both the output levels from MPL-1 used on Send 1 and Send 2 down to -15db (or lower), because send3 receives two limited signals. With the actual version, both signals send from send1 and send2, have a output level of -5db. Send3 receives therefore 2 inputs with -5db signals, which doesn't leave me much dynamic for adjustments.
I simply can lower the volume by using a volume effect after each send-track, but to have this feature in MPL-1 would be great!
I guess the reason for having an output-level from -5db to +5db in MPL-1 is because it was designed as a mastering tool and not as a track effect as i used it in my example above.
Cowbells!
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- KVRAF
- 1894 posts since 19 Apr, 2006 from Montreal, Canada
Not to mention it would be wrong to do so, for many reasons. Ears judgement introduce way too many variables to be able to get consistent result; just as a typical day progress, I find my audio level to be incresignly too loud (ear fatigue?), so given my monitor output stays the same I would tend to lower everything as the clock is ticking forward. Proper metering is an absolut must if you want material that's consistent across the board.orangesuite wrote:And before the usual retorts of use your ears to judge loudness comes in, this question is more academic!
Now, I wrote this fully expecting to be flamed down, so those few with platinum coated ears can fully have a go at it, I'm ready.
And congrat, Torben, on your new baby, I'm sure it will be a success.
No, that wasn't me.
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- KVRAF
- 2685 posts since 14 Jul, 2005 from Australia
hehe, that's the 2nd msg I was actually referring tottoz wrote:i am getting warning messages about SPECTRA'S limitations after i get the warning about the MPL's limitations...even though spectra was uninstalled ages ago....so ther's a conflict there somewhere
Cheers
Fots
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- KVRist
- 478 posts since 14 Jan, 2003 from Denmark
Thanks to all so far 
scam_artist, This GUI design will be used on the Mastering Series.
ttoz, the recycled message is fixed. Thank you for discovering that with your Hawkeye
Thanks
Torben
scam_artist, This GUI design will be used on the Mastering Series.
ttoz, the recycled message is fixed. Thank you for discovering that with your Hawkeye
Thanks
Torben
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- KVRAF
- 1894 posts since 19 Apr, 2006 from Montreal, Canada
Mmm, I've downloaded at 7:34am (-5 GMT), not yet installed, should I download again?Torben wrote:ttoz, the recycled message is fixed. Thank you for discovering that with your Hawkeye![]()
No, that wasn't me.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Good sounding plug!
This leaves me with a real dillema however: I was planning to stump up for Ozone next time I had a serious project to master. That was mainly because I wanted the MegaBitMax dither.. but I told myself that getting a good limiter thrown in helped to justify the price.
If I buy MPL-1 now (as I'm sorely tempted to) how the hell am I going to justify spending over $200 for just a dither plug?
I assume the dither in MPL-1 doens't compete..? <runs off to test>
This leaves me with a real dillema however: I was planning to stump up for Ozone next time I had a serious project to master. That was mainly because I wanted the MegaBitMax dither.. but I told myself that getting a good limiter thrown in helped to justify the price.
If I buy MPL-1 now (as I'm sorely tempted to) how the hell am I going to justify spending over $200 for just a dither plug?
I assume the dither in MPL-1 doens't compete..? <runs off to test>
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- KVRian
- 1161 posts since 17 Nov, 2002 from Middlesbrough,UK
I use the universal audio precision limiter on all my projects would the MPL-1 Mastering Precision Limiter be as good or even better ?
If it is as good or better i'd like to puchase it as this would free up my UAD-1 to make room for other plugins.
If it is as good or better i'd like to puchase it as this would free up my UAD-1 to make room for other plugins.
- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
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- KVRist
- 402 posts since 23 Sep, 2003 from Los Angeles
As a fan of both Kjaerhus Audio's and iZotope's work, I'd say that it's a mistake to look at Ozone only for its dither. There are a lot of other things in that plug-in (should be called a plug-in "suite") that justify the price - but - if that's not part of your consideration and you're on a budget, then you could go with the MPL-1 with a perfectly clear (pun) conscience. As important as various types of dither *can be* to a mix, there are many other factors that have a more significant impact on the sound. And as usual, Torben has all four corners nailed down with this plug. Nice one!IIRs wrote:Good sounding plug!
This leaves me with a real dillema however: I was planning to stump up for Ozone next time I had a serious project to master. That was mainly because I wanted the MegaBitMax dither.. but I told myself that getting a good limiter thrown in helped to justify the price.
If I buy MPL-1 now (as I'm sorely tempted to) how the hell am I going to justify spending over $200 for just a dither plug?
I assume the dither in MPL-1 doens't compete..? <runs off to test>
Houston Haynes
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Sure, but I already have better EQ options (ie: linear phase, or dynamic), multi-band compression when I need it (not often), good reverbs etc. The only bits of Ozone that I don't already have well covered are the limiter and the dither.. and if I buy MPL-1 it will be just the dither.HHaynes wrote: I'd say that it's a mistake to look at Ozone only for its dither.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
I just tested the MPL-1 dither anyway. It works perfectly well.. but, like every other dither I have tested so far it doesn't have that warm soft <hush> sound that MegaBitMax manages. 
Torben, I don't suppose you have some amazing Ozone-killing dither algo up your sleave for the next plug..?
Torben, I don't suppose you have some amazing Ozone-killing dither algo up your sleave for the next plug..?
