Ampeg® SVX - Are we there yet?

[Squids]

I mean if it's just for loud head banging boom boom bass then it sure ain't for me.

Since Bill Dickens is using Ampeg SVX, I doubt the software will be Head Bangers Ball.

The B-15 emulation is what sold me. You could be James Jamerson with a set of flat wounds or Phil Lynott if you want to be more rocking. It's all in how you turn the virtual dials.

Wade

Or wade through the presets...

Yes, you are totally right btw.

[SJ_Digriz]

Oh and I don't think that is why 90% of more guitarists/bassist are not on the computer... I think it is because they simply don't really know how cool it is! Yet.

I think it's because each company tries to hardwire proprietary setups with the software. When the software starts supporting industry standard control then maybe we'll jump on board. So far I think AT2 is useless for anything other than a plug in affect. I'm still underwhelmed with the amp simulations.

First, thanks for looking into that matter Squids. But let me tell you, IKMM strategy smells bad. Wether ot not StompIO is amazing, the end user who paid for that product should have the freedom to choose what controller to use.

I've been keeping my mouth shut until the patch comes out. Then we'll see.

[Squids]

Well, this place is all about plug-ins. I think the amp simulation is really some of the best out there. A lot of people do. I have been getting feedback from a lot of different engineers, producers and musicians who have been using it already on major projects. Seems to be unanimous amongst a lot of pros I've talked to. But, each person has their particular tastes though. No product pleases everyone. This one is a hit though wihtout question.

[raintalk]

Yummm - samples:
http://www.ampegsvx.com/Main.php?Download.php

[Wade Cornett]

Squids,

Do you know how Bill Dickens had Ampeg SVX set up? And can you share that info with us?

Wade

[Squids]

Beats the dickens outta me. But, I will try to find out. (Hello, my name is Squids and I am cheeseball punmeister).

[scottedog]

Beats the dickens outta me. But, I will try to find out. (Hello, my name is Squids and I am cheeseball punmeister).

There's gotta be a 12-step program out there for you, Squids!

[Squids]

Beats the dickens outta me. But, I will try to find out. (Hello, my name is Squids and I am cheeseball punmeister).

There's gotta be a 12-step program out there for you, Squids!

[BERFAB]

It's odd to me that someone would say that they are 'underwhelmed' by the amp simulations (or anything else) in AT2 since every single parameter is tweakable. If your ears are that discerning, and you need the cab to sound bigger, you can actually do that yourself with not much trouble. More 'buzz' on the head? No problem. Mic placement? I mean, c'mon. You can't reliably duplicate this kind of accuracy in the real world with actual equipment. And again, if it sounds 'off' to your ears, then that's YOUR fault--just tweak a few knobs and fix it.

One thing I haven't read about yet is the problem of working musicians playing with AT2 live through the actual amps and then having to compensate for the duplication of the AT2 emulation coupled with the real thing. I'm not a live player, but I assume that for the emulations to sound correct, you need to play it through a system with the flattest response possible, no?

-B

[raintalk]

I wouldn't worry too much about a few people's opinions. i.e. "Sugarless gum is recommended by four out of five dentists for their patients who chew gum."
Amp simulation is great and you'll always find a few people are toothless on their arguments.

For live situations, skip the "guitar" or "bass" amp/cabinet and go straight for the Sound reinforcement quality, flat response gear. There's an old board out for the Roland VG-8/VG-88 and this has been discussed for years. Using a full range uncolored system will let modeling do what it does best. People that try to use modeling through typical guitar amps are usually ones that are underwhelmed by it.

[BERFAB]

People that try to use modeling through typical guitar amps are usually ones that are underwhelmed by it.

My suspicion exactly.

[DotNoir]

Hrm hrm... Can't wait to get this soft. Also on the same shipment I'll be getting CSR. Quality for our studio

[SJ_Digriz]

It's odd to me that someone would say that they are 'underwhelmed' by the amp simulations (or anything else) in AT2 since every single parameter is tweakable. If your ears are that discerning, and you need the cab to sound bigger, you can actually do that yourself with not much trouble. More 'buzz' on the head? No problem. Mic placement? I mean, c'mon. You can't reliably duplicate this kind of accuracy in the real world with actual equipment. And again, if it sounds 'off' to your ears, then that's YOUR fault--just tweak a few knobs and fix it.

One thing I haven't read about yet is the problem of working musicians playing with AT2 live through the actual amps and then having to compensate for the duplication of the AT2 emulation coupled with the real thing. I'm not a live player, but I assume that for the emulations to sound correct, you need to play it through a system with the flattest response possible, no?

-B

Let me put it another way. I play a 60s Strat through a 60s twin. When going DI I use a Brick into a Delta 1010. After many, many, many hours of messing around, there is still no way to make the AT2 sound like strat->twin->SM57. Not even close. It could be my own lack of software ability. But, if it's that damn hard, what's the point.

2nd. You can't control the software. You can't automate patch changes. Again, then what's the point? Telling me I have to buy another damn stomp box is XXXXXXX retarded. I won't do it.

Trying to integrate AT2 into a live configuration is a PITA without a common control setup. Again, I'll wait for the patch to decide if it warrents further play time. But for now, this is a nice toy and nothing more. It has some great stomp emulations, but the resource hit to use them is unacceptable.

NO STANDALONE. This is the biggest joke. All I can say is that I'll wait for the patch before I rant more about the "seemingly" purposefull crippling of the software to boost sales of the stomp.

[Wade Cornett]

Squids,

Was wondering what the latest ETA on Ampeg SVX is. Have they started shipping. Maybe I missed something.

Wade

[Squids]

To run it in stand alone just use Chainer: http://www.xlutop.com Big deal! Oh and a 60's Strat through a 60's Twin? Is there ever going to be anything better than that???? lol It isn't going to sound exactly like that and each amp sounds diff than the next anyway. Most people don't have that nice a set up but even if they did there are plenty of other amp combinations AT2 offers for variety and tastes of all kinds of different brand gear etc etc. But, it is for the right person who wants an amp/effect toolbox. I wouldn't say it is the definitive REPLACEMENT for vintage gear! It's a tool to use that's all! A great one that many people love, myself included.

Wade, Ampeg SVX had a nasty delay in shipment here in the US due to some supplies taking a while to get here overseas. I know that MAD shipment prep has been done all of last week so they're FINALLY going out this week! To all esoundz customers who order it THANK YOU for your patience. You are still going to be some of the first to get it from here in the US. Usually IK products ship at the same time world-wide. This time Europe had it a little earlier. But, we do our best from our side!