Senderella Options for FL

[TRN76]

Well, seriously...
The 4 send slots are there just for backward compability!
If you have a problem with using more than 1 channel, i suggest you use colors.
But like stated, no need for senderella, stream boy or anything else. And how on earth does senderella or anything else knows in what order the channels are mixed?
In FLS you can't feedback-route, and that also assures that the mixer does mix in the right order with no delay.

http://filexoom.com/files/613/temp_stuff/Routing.flp

Just play song.
You hear and see a lead that is going in Chn11 and some eq applied.
It then routes to chn 12,13 & 14.
12 is dry
13 is reverb
14 is delay
13&14 now goes to 15 (acting as a sub-bus)
15 is here really just for showing off.. really no need!

No problem, is it?

[ouroboros]

Hi Debutante,
here is one potential solution, perhaps it would work?
there are of course some limitations, like TRN76 said: no feedback routing, and in my version, for the reverb to reflect the changes in the lead's sound, you would need to route the 2nd lead to the reverb. To do that, for your purposes, you might need to duplicate teh effect chain behind the reverb in the reverb channe, increasing the levels as appropriate. The same fx can share one automation curve, but you're right in that it is more work than something like senderalla.

Anyways, here's the file (i just modified yours)
http://www.quickdump.com/files/2062282334.html

[Debutante]

Hi Debutante,
here is one potential solution, perhaps it would work?
there are of course some limitations, like TRN76 said: no feedback routing, and in my version, for the reverb to reflect the changes in the lead's sound, you would need to route the 2nd lead to the reverb. To do that, for your purposes, you might need to duplicate teh effect chain behind the reverb in the reverb channe, increasing the levels as appropriate. The same fx can share one automation curve, but you're right in that it is more work than something like senderalla.

Anyways, here's the file (i just modified yours)
http://www.quickdump.com/files/2062282334.html

Thanks for that bit, ourobouros, and I see what you're saying, but that was my whole point: in my example I did NOT want the verb to have the changes applied to the filter cutoff. I wanted the verb to remain static, and still be able to filter the lead

TRN76's idea works as well. It's alot of extra routing to get the job done but it's quite a feasible alternative. My intital problem was not as convoluted. And Senderella functions exactly like the Send plugin does, only it CAN do so on any channel. The Send plugin can't go to channel 25, say.

In any case I'm glad at least Spyro was onto what I was talking about. The ability to shift mixer channels in FL 6 helps alot as well. Thanks for all the help as always guys!!!

[ouroboros]

Hi Debutante,
here is one potential solution, perhaps it would work?
there are of course some limitations, like TRN76 said: no feedback routing, and in my version, for the reverb to reflect the changes in the lead's sound, you would need to route the 2nd lead to the reverb. To do that, for your purposes, you might need to duplicate teh effect chain behind the reverb in the reverb channe, increasing the levels as appropriate. The same fx can share one automation curve, but you're right in that it is more work than something like senderalla.

Anyways, here's the file (i just modified yours)
http://www.quickdump.com/files/2062282334.html

Thanks for that bit, ourobouros, and I see what you're saying, but that was my whole point: in my example I did NOT want the verb to have the changes applied to the filter cutoff. I wanted the verb to remain static, and still be able to filter the lead

TRN76's idea works as well. It's alot of extra routing to get the job done but it's quite a feasible alternative. My intital problem was not as convoluted. And Senderella functions exactly like the Send plugin does, only it CAN do so on any channel. The Send plugin can't go to channel 25, say.

In any case I'm glad at least Spyro was onto what I was talking about. The ability to shift mixer channels in FL 6 helps alot as well. Thanks for all the help as always guys!!!

did you try the file? It does what you say- the way I configured the uploaded file, the filter does not affect the reverb.
Perhaps my post was confusing - In the file the filter does not affect the reverb, but my post was trying to explain how to create a structure that could function either way - reverb affected or not, sorry.

The red colored channel acts as an absolute dry channel for me. You have to use these channels as plateaus, and then route them to other channels for further affects, that way you always have an unmodified channel to route to other ones. Instead of creating inear fx chains, you have to create trees, so that an unaffected "trunk" always remains to branch off from. Sorry, poor analogy...

The file, I believe does what you say.

[Debutante]

ourobouros... your file indeed does as I specified even though it seems like alot more work and mixer slots. I still would like the nice and lazy (and very simple ) Senderella thing going. But I hope you can still see the uniqueness in my approach. I'm trying the Steamboy tonite CHEERS!!

[Spyro]

I think ouroboros is right.

Let's say you want senderella in the middle of a chain, right, and senderella is failing at your end.

Why not just split the chain into several mixer channels?

You could just save the mixer channel as a preset, load it on the other channels and just delete (or disable) what you don't need on each of them. Finally route the first channel to the rest.

Is just another way to visualize it.

Is also useful to comment that you can rearrange the channels on the mixer by using ALT+Left/Rigt Arrow (just in case you're in the middle of a song with several channels aldready assigned)

[TRN76]

That was the point.
My example is more complicated than necessary, I just wanted to show that you can route and mix excacly as you want. The only limit is feedback routing.
And I say this again: Using senderella or other plugs, created as delay, and it might sound different each time you load the song.. Depends on what you do with the channels.