Nativi Instruments Guitar Rig 2 - is awesome!!

[Hink]

Lets all remember, a podxt is basically software with its own DSP chip.

It just barely qualifies as "hardware" any more than a computer with an amp sim on it.

it provides it's own processing...that's like saying digital reverbs/delays/multi fx, rackmount units aren't harware because they have a dsp chip...me thinx you spoke before you thunk...

nah, i feel similar about those too.

I can think of a few million that might disagree...in fact some might say that "hardware processors" didn't really come into thier own umtil the invention of the dsp chip

good for them....

then I suggest that all electronic amps (tubes, solidstate. microprocessor, telekenectronics) are just parabolic continuum emulators or sims

[Jason Brian Merrill]

Im just saying that the capabilities of software guitar sims are equal to that of the so called "hardware" sims.

Because essentially, they are simply code with a DSP chip.

Same thing with the reverbs, delays -- whatever.

Now with pc power becoming even stronger, they can do the same job.

think what you wish, you are entitled to that.

[Jason Brian Merrill]

Lets all remember, a podxt is basically software with its own DSP chip.

It just barely qualifies as "hardware" any more than a computer with an amp sim on it.

it provides it's own processing...that's like saying digital reverbs/delays/multi fx, rackmount units aren't harware because they have a dsp chip...me thinx you spoke before you thunk...

nah, i feel similar about those too.

I can think of a few million that might disagree...in fact some might say that "hardware processors" didn't really come into thier own umtil the invention of the dsp chip

good for them....

then I suggest that all electronic amps (tubes, solidstate. microprocessor, telekenectronics) are just parabolic continuum emulators or sims

good for you

[Hink]

it provides it's own processing...that's like saying digital reverbs/delays/multi fx, rackmount units aren't harware because they have a dsp chip...me thinx you spoke before you thunk...

nah, i feel similar about those too.

I can think of a few million that might disagree...in fact some might say that "hardware processors" didn't really come into thier own umtil the invention of the dsp chip

good for them....

then I suggest that all electronic amps (tubes, solidstate. microprocessor, telekenectronics) are just parabolic continuum emulators or sims

good for you

does that mean you understand what I just said?
















































































































































If so can you explain it to me

[Jason Brian Merrill]

It means, no offense, i dont give a crap what you said

[Hink]

It means, no offense, i dont give a crap what you said

meow

[Jason Brian Merrill]

It means, no offense, i dont give a crap what you said

meow

well, its true, i dont whereas normally i do

[DaveSmom]

@Jason:

Hink is right, you need to do your research first, bro

Modern DSP chip beats modern CPU when it comes to audio processing and it will probably stay this way (since Moore's law is dead)

ps. Having said that, I'd always take the software route.... Only 'cos it's generally cheaper and upgradable

[Jason Brian Merrill]

@Jason:

Hink is right, you need to do your research first, bro

Modern DSP chip beats modern CPU when it comes to audio and it will probably stay this way (since Moore's law is dead)

Nah, i dont think so, bro.

Esp. when we are talking about these guitar amp sims from the early 2000s ...

[DaveSmom]

[sarcasm]I guess you can't teach a fool [/sarcasm]

[Jason Brian Merrill]

[sarcasm]I guess you can't teach a fool [/sarcasm]

perhaps then, you can give me stats regarding the processing power of the podxt, vs. a modern, dual core 64 bit CPU?

[Jason Brian Merrill]

ps. Having said that, I'd always take the software route.... Only 'cos it's generally cheaper and upgradable

not to counter my own argument, but i own the podxt, and i love it -- and it is VERY upgradable. However, the DSP chip is limited, and many complain of aliasing in some patches ....

and i dont feel it is as "Alive" as guitar rig 2

[DaveSmom]

From Google, your global library:

eg1: http://members.tripod.com/kmi9000/kmi_proc.htm

There are millions of others, I'm sure

Enjoy

[Jason Brian Merrill]

From Google, your global library:

eg1: http://members.tripod.com/kmi9000/kmi_proc.htm

There are millions of others, I'm sure

Enjoy

Umm, Im not reading that crap.

perhaps though, you can answer my question -- which was really the only thing in question.

does the podxt have more processing power than a modern cpu?

i think not.

A 5 year old DSP chip is not going to even compare to a modern CPU.

Hence, a pc running guitar rig or amplitube 2 actually has potential to sound much better, have more calcs per second in its emulation, than the podxt of the past

im not saying as a blanket statement dsp chips are weaker -- but we're talking 2 different eras here.

give me proof, in english, and perhaps ill give a crap what you say.

[DaveSmom]

Ahh... I see your bias showing

Discussion over from this end, mate