KVR Audio

superddman · Post by **superddman** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:20 am

Don't want to pick on Podium but I must also say that I really,really,really tried to get into its workflow but just never happened.

HelgeG · Post by **HelgeG** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:40 am

If it's not Logic, I don't like it. How's that for an enlightened attitude?

stefancrs · Post by **stefancrs** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:46 am

aallvor wrote:
fandango wrote:
aallvor: Likewise, I really wanted to get into Podium, but despite demoing it every so often I'm still not smart enough to work out the heirarchical mixing...
Yeah, that thing was a total headfuck. Since then I've stopped flirting with other hosts

I still don't see what people find so hard with Podium

These days I just go "new project" -> "quick setup" and start making noise. Not that I'm a hardcore Podium user or anything, but still.
One of these days I must get into EnergyXT as well. Seems so cool

Cordelia · Post by **Cordelia** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:47 am

n-track. Not too bad handling audio, MIDI was buggy, crashed and crashed. The few included FX weren't much, quality-wise, and were also buggy buggy buggy. Did I mention it has a lot of bugs?

fandango · Post by **fandango** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:57 am

stefancrs: The actual setup and get-go of Podium is absolutely fine. It's just that I really have to think hard about things like send busses etc. Making sure that the Return bus is inside the return effect and that the inserts etc. are before the generators etc.

It's incredibly powerful, but sometimes when composing in Podium I end up staring at this huge collection of heirarchies and going slightly cross-eyed...

... which is a shame, as it's incredibly stable and has lots of nice features.

stilaktive · Post by **stilaktive** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:58 am

Logic

didnt like it at all. felt too slow

stefancrs · Post by **stefancrs** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:07 am

fandango wrote:stefancrs: The actual setup and get-go of Podium is absolutely fine. It's just that I really have to think hard about things like send busses etc. Making sure that the Return bus is inside the return effect and that the inserts etc. are before the generators etc.

It's incredibly powerful, but sometimes when composing in Podium I end up staring at this huge collection of heirarchies and going slightly cross-eyed... ... which is a shame, as it's incredibly stable and has lots of nice features.

You think "before", I think "after" or "above"

How send busses are handled are one of the things that I _really_ like about Podium (and it's user interface which I think is great). But I get where you're coming from. It's really using it's own paradigm, which makes it trickier for a lot of people unless they get used to it.

fliffo · Post by **fliffo** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:18 am

My vote goes to FLstudio. Personally I don't like its (toyish) graphical interface and its (anti-creative) workflow even tho I tried the demos of every new release since 2000...

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:20 am

If there would've been a poll, we would've been able to see an interesting observation.

In the most recent "what's your favourite host" poll cubase came to top by a mile. If this was a poll as well, we would also see that it's the most hated one.

This always happens in polls, VH1 and all the english mags with their "what's the greatest/worst" as good example.

You might as well have written "what's the most average/mediocre/boring host", and cubase would've come on top as well.

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:21 am

I hate hosts with crappy summing.
Those are the worst.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:22 am

stilaktive wrote:Logic

didnt like it at all. felt too slow

You bunch of monkeys and idiots.

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:40 am

ttoz wrote:
spaceman wrote:what a great thread.. can't we just rip of your testicles instead of replying to this nonsense
hey when i did my "just for fun what s the worst host of all time" thread i remember your participated

but that one said 'just for fun' in the title

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:41 am

superddman wrote:
spaceman wrote:what a great thread.. can't we just rip of your testicles instead of replying to this nonsense
I guess you dont know what "fun" means.

no I don't.. please do explain to me because I'm obviously missing out on something here

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:51 am

What happened to "Getting Started (AKA What is the best...?)". Isn't that where "fun" threads like this are supposed to be?

Vegetarian · Post by **Vegetarian** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:55 am

Protools

I don't actually have much against it other than I haven't got any real need for it at all. BUT I work with a lot of professionals, amateurs and people who don't have any qualified opinion on the matter, all of which have this mindset that if it's not Protools then it's not "pro" at all

I don't know where the idea comes from but it drives me mental. It's also the same group of people who'll shit on anything that doesn't have "Mackie", "Allen & Heath" or "SSL" written on it.

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