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muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:34 pm

Both LUNA Free and LUNA Unlimited are out as PreRelease version 2!

Highlights of these new versions:

* Support for Intel Mac
* Enhanced Audio Mixing Desk
* Improved editors and workflow
* Plugin Manager
* New skins
* and a lot of little fine tunings!

LUNA Unlimited Users should already have received an email with the download links.

LUNA Free can be downloaded via http://www.mutools.com/downloads.html

Enjoy!

mahtazz · Post by **mahtazz** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:54 pm

You have got a new order!

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:11 pm

Thanks man!

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:33 pm

Wow. The new skin looks fantastic - it all feels a lot more "modern". The new VST grouping is great!

Weird issue #1: I first copied over my settings files to the new install and ran LUNA. It hit the CPU 100% and I had to kill it.
Weird issue #2: I had to reboot to be able to use Firefox after that!

I'm posting this before trying again

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Okay -- that's repeatable. Copying in the settings is not a good idea. I bet it's the changes to the ASIO stuff that's the problem.

Yes, it's the ASIO changes that cause the lock up but even skipping the audio settings, the changes to the skinning mean that copying over your Settings really isn't worth it.

MattmaN · Post by **MattmaN** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:01 am

Yeah!...Very good implementation of multi-outs on vsti's!

Calum · Post by **Calum** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:58 pm

Jo

You have obviously put a lot of thought into this update and your efforts are really beginning to pay off. The improvements you have made to Luna's workflow, stability and responsiveness make the programme even more rewarding to use. Nothing bad to report so far and I have really been trying to put Luna through its paces to see if I can break it.

The new skins are great but I do hope that you have not dropped LooxTeak and LooxVoidex (the more skins the better!). My own skin is based mainly on the LooxTeak template so it would be useful to have a copy of the new version so I can update my skin more easily.

As usual my observations are mainly GUI related. Although I like the idea of the collapsing audio mixer strips, I do think that the text can become unreasonably small in the channel strips. Would it be possible to put a limit to how small the text can be minimised?

Calum

vintage · Post by **vintage** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:27 am

PR2 is looking great...definitely like the new skin. Two questions: 1) it doesn't look like PR2 will load MrRay73 still? is this upcoming? and 2) how can you set the quantize parameters (16th, 1/4, swing, etc)?

MattmaN · Post by **MattmaN** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:16 am

I don't think Joe has added swing/shuffle yet.
Lets keep bugging him so we can shuffle in PR3.

Joe I like the way rendering is handled by the way(selected parts).
Arguably better than the track by track method that most host/sequencers use, since it helps save screen space by using less tracks.
Luna's workflow, and solid midi editing are are deffinant strong points.

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:22 pm

pljones wrote:Weird issue #1: I first copied over my settings files to the new install and ran LUNA. It hit the CPU 100% and I had to kill it.
Weird issue #2: I had to reboot to be able to use Firefox after that!

I'm posting this before trying again .

Okay -- that's repeatable. Copying in the settings is not a good idea. I bet it's the changes to the ASIO stuff that's the problem.

Yes, it's the ASIO changes that cause the lock up but even skipping the audio settings, the changes to the skinning mean that copying over your Settings really isn't worth it.

Strange...

Anyway, thanks for this feedback!

So maybe it's safer to copy all settings files except for "AudioSetup.txt".

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:30 pm

Calum wrote:The new skins are great but I do hope that you have not dropped LooxTeak and LooxVoidex (the more skins the better!).

Currently, they're put on the shelf. But you can still edit them, if you want

As usual my observations are mainly GUI related. Although I like the idea of the collapsing audio mixer strips, I do think that the text can become unreasonably small in the channel strips. Would it be possible to put a limit to how small the text can be minimised?

The small texts may not be very readable anymore, but their "iconic" appearance can hint you that something is plugged in there, and maybe you can even read/feel/guess what's plugged in.

Of course, you can focus the mixerstrip, then it grows to full width, with clear details.

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:33 pm

vintage wrote:PR2 is looking great...definitely like the new skin.

Yeah, Thanks to Branislav and Victor!

Two questions: 1) it doesn't look like PR2 will load MrRay73 still? is this upcoming?

Indeed, some stupid little bug slipped thru in LUNA PR2, so that there is still a problem with MrRay 73.

An updated version of LUNA will be released asap!

and 2) how can you set the quantize parameters (16th, 1/4, swing, etc)?

Not yet supported.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:13 pm

muzycian wrote:So maybe it's safer to copy all settings files except for "AudioSetup.txt".

I think I tried that but the windows didn't draw properly or something. I'll have to try it again.

Ah yes - the line in LUNA.Txt that defines the skin:
GraphicsFolder={Application}/Graphics/LooxVoidex
or
GraphicsFolder={Application}/Graphics/LooxShark
If the skin folder doesn't exist, the application doesn't draw the UI properly.

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:45 pm

True, you're right, again.

Taken note of the issue.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:50 pm

Got a DrWatson:
http://www.drealm.info/luna/20060707-drwtsn32.log

I drew a controller curve to automate the gain slider on a MIDI instrument mixer channel. I turned on loop sequence (is that the way to get the selection to loop?) and the channel fader slid up and down nicely.

I then changed the player to the MIDI instrument and started playing - then got the error.

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:16 pm

pljones wrote:Got a DrWatson:
http://www.drealm.info/luna/20060707-drwtsn32.log

I drew a controller curve to automate the gain slider on a MIDI instrument mixer channel. I turned on loop sequence (is that the way to get the selection to loop?) and the channel fader slid up and down nicely.

I guess you automated the gain slider of a VSTI, right?

I then changed the player to the MIDI instrument and started playing - then got the error.

I tried to simulate it here, using synth1, but no crash.

I saw in the log that the crash occured in Nubi.dll.

Could it be the plug?

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