MAn somebody in a mood, Sorry for not mentioning the pre amp in my stomp box, but take any old stomp and use Boogex as the impulse with pre-amp on zero and I think you will see it sounds normal, NOw am I bypassing the pre when they are all zero? I think so but maybe not. A dedicated preamp would be better yes of course, but when I was responding I was thinking of how I used Boogex.. As far as everything else. I dont really buy into that EVERYONE who is ANYONE has good DI's. ANd any old Hi-Z is good... I have a presonus Eureka which is a great DI as well as preamp, and I have my EMU 1820m HI-Z and I have a mackie mixer.. Guess which one is head and shoulders above? The presonus, so I think it makes a big difference. So BIzarre..Lunch Money wrote:Ah. So without sims, you're just putting a stomp-box through an cab? No. There's still the entire AMP to be factored in. A stomp box into a pristine clean channel of a solid-state amp or into a P.A. channel pretty much sounds like crap, too, which is exactly the sound you'd get by putting on a cab impulse into a D.I. stompbox. Units like the TS808, Guv'nor, or good ol' OD-1 are meant to go in front of an amp, more often than not on an already dirty channel.Killvehicle wrote:Uh not quite, the reason a stomp box sounds like shite going direct is cause there are no speakers, if you go direct in with your stopm and THEN apply a cab impulse I think you will see your favorite stomp sounds just like it would in your set-up
Such a weird justification. Anyone who knows anything about using an AMP sim will have an impedance-matched input. Whether it's proprietary like the units by Amplitube, Guitar Rig, TonePort, or GTR (what do you call THOSE, if not dedicated inputs?); or whether it's a simple D.I. running into the soundcard (again, you don't get much more dedicated than impedance-matching), at the end of the day it's just an input. Those are exactly the same as the one on the POD, so I don't know how "the fact it has a dedicated inpu, like any amp" somehow puts it ahead of any other sims. No, what sets the POD apart is the fact that it has good modelling, not a dedicated input. Bizarre.Pod is essentially software as well, but while the POD doesnt amaze me either, it is a better solution becasue of the fact it has a dedicated input, like any amp would.
"At the mercy of" makes it seem like you don't have the choice. As mentioned already, most of the top-tier software HAS a line of dedicated inputs; but that aside, all it takes is a Hi-Z to line-level conversion... which many people already have, or can easily add. As for latency with computers, unless you've been in the dark ages you'll find that 3ms is a common latency these days. 3ms is undetectable. But, for the sake of argument let's say that you DO notice. There's still the TonePort with its "ToneDirect" system, interacting with Gearbox, which is software. It's not software that's the issue there, either. If, for example, Guitar Rig + ASIO is incapable of the kinds of low latencies that you want, it's still obviously not an impossibility. I seriously doubt that AAllll the guitarists in the world who have done just fine with 2.9 ms latency are ALL wrong about how responsive it is. I personally get get by with anything 6ms or less, though I admit to preferring the "ToneDirect."ANd also has cab modeling. Software sims on the other hand is at the mercy of whatver soundcard or input that the user has, and this can really make the signal going in suffer, which will make the software suffer, and not to mention latency with computers.
Greg
Latency, yes anyhting under 6ms is quite all right and I can get 2ms, but usually stick at 4ms. MY laptop gets 7ms. Latency is not an issue to me, but Im sure it is ISSUE to others , which is how I responded. Otherwise my set-up allows me everything I want if I ever want to go software and be happy.
