Need some advice on hardware sampling license issues

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koolkeys wrote:I can understand not using the original waveforums. But say I take a Motif and record myself hitting every note of a piano patch, cut it up, map it out, and upload it. Is this considered original waveform? Or would there have to be some uniqueness to it?
It doesnt matter whether you sample it directly or process it; its still a 'derived work', and subject to copyright law. As such, its up to Korg as to whether it would be permitted.

Given that the piano is a 'selling point' of the Triton, I think there's more likelihood of there being a problem, to be honest.

However, I would say one thing; if you demonstrably show a willingness to take down samples at the request of the copyright holder, then you would, more than likely, be protecting yourself; the first step in protecting copyright is a cease-and-desist request, not a lawsuit.
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Good advice rabbyt. Thank you for your input, and everyone else too.

One question, what is the ddrum? And do they make commercial sample CD's? I only ask because I don't know what they are and there are torrents up with it. The uploader mentions a CD, but I don't know what it is exactly.

Thanks.

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ddrum is an electronic drum kit, recently discontinued. Looks like it was based on 'signature series' samples by specific drummers. They also seem to have offered samples to download, probably to load into the ddrum. So you might be on dodgy ground there....

http://www.ddrum.com/electronicdrums.htm
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I did check out this ddrum, as I wasn't quite sure, but everything I came across just suggested it was fine to distribute, because it's free.. I could be wrong though.

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xsub wrote:everything I came across just suggested it was fine to distribute, because it's free.. I could be wrong though.
Weather the original distribution is free or not is irrelevant. If the license said you may not redistribute without permission (and it often is like that) then that's a clear statement, isn't it?

You have to check out the original license. Sometimes it does state it is OK to redistribute, under certain conditions (also free, original ZIP archive, including license doc, stating where it originally came from, etc)
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Ok, I didn't know what ddrum was. But if it was on a CD made by a company, that's usually not good to distribute, I would think. Am I right that it is pretty much a demo cd for their drum kits?

I'll try to get in touch with the company with a Google search and see what I can find out. Or see if I can find these downloads anywhere.

Thanks guys.

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Isn't sampling different from "ripping"?
I mean if you sample a synthesizer you make an analog "copy" of it, because you run the waves through the DAC of the synth and then through the ADC of your computer or whatever. So the sampled wave is not the original wave.

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That's what I originally thought. But then again, how do you rip a waveform from an original hardware synth? I'm sure it's easy when you know how, but I don't know how!

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Ok, here's the "executive decision" I'm making.

I will be deleting all torrents of sampled hardware synths today. And as a word to my mods and anyone wanting to upload, I will not allow any more sampled hardware.

Also, the akai samples will be taken down. If you want to upload samples that were free downloads at one point, they have to have a license file with them with permission to distribute.

This isn't to be mean, but to be safe. Myself and Hollowsun have exchanged emails and cleared things up.

Sample Torrents will stay legit. Thank you to all who were willing to share, and continue to, but I can't let hardware samples go up any more, unless they have permission to be passed around.

I hope you all understand. Thanks.

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