My Axiom is due in today, and I am a bit confused about the manual as it pertains to receptor.
I have been running two KB's with B4II instead of a split keyboard, by using a midi-merge. The question is that of USB,or midi connection ? Secondly, the manual says not to connect computer without installing drivers. Receptor is both a computer, and a module, and presume you don't need drivers. Last is the question of Enigma. How is that handled.
I know that a three way connection can be made, but is it necessary ?
Axiom 61 and Receptor
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- KVRer
- 24 posts since 24 May, 2004
Nope, you can direct connect the Axiom to the Receptor over USB without any drivers. You don't need the MIDI cable to control the Receptor.bernie9 wrote:My Axiom is due in today, and I am a bit confused about the manual as it pertains to receptor.
I have been running two KB's with B4II instead of a split keyboard, by using a midi-merge. The question is that of USB,or midi connection ? Secondly, the manual says not to connect computer without installing drivers. Receptor is both a computer, and a module, and presume you don't need drivers. Last is the question of Enigma. How is that handled.
I know that a three way connection can be made, but is it necessary ?
When programming the Axiom I use Midi to the Receptor and USB to the PC running Enigma. I can make changes to the programming in Enigma, download to the Axiom and verify it using Receptor Remote Control. You can even verify the keyboard midi output by bringing up MidiOX on the PC. You have to reload the patch on the Axiom after downloading changes.
I've had some annoyances with Enigma but by and large this is a pretty good setup for programming the Axiom. You have hours of tweaking ahead of you...
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
Peter is correct, no drivers needed, works perfectly. Decide before you begin how you would like the Receptor configured, what instruments go where etc. (NOTE: If you want the Receptor to change patch on a plug, that plug must be installed in the sale mixer slot as the corresponding midi channel.)
Enigma is better than nothing, but is a bit of a PITA.be aware when you send TP the Axiom, it does not update the active (performance)workspace, only the memory locations, you will nedd to immediately recall the desired patch before changes are in effect.
But you CAN have multiple setups stored through Enigma, if need be.
Congratulations, Axiom 61 + Receptor is a hell of a rig. I use the prokeys88sx as lower manual and it's a perfect combo. I run b4 ii, Colossus Steinway piano, acoustic bass a fingered electric bass, MrRay22 electric piano,FM7, MinimogueVA, a GM SFX bank and a Collossus string pad overlay for any active channels, all of which is controlled via midi patch and channel change. Works like a charm.
Enigma is better than nothing, but is a bit of a PITA.be aware when you send TP the Axiom, it does not update the active (performance)workspace, only the memory locations, you will nedd to immediately recall the desired patch before changes are in effect.
But you CAN have multiple setups stored through Enigma, if need be.
Congratulations, Axiom 61 + Receptor is a hell of a rig. I use the prokeys88sx as lower manual and it's a perfect combo. I run b4 ii, Colossus Steinway piano, acoustic bass a fingered electric bass, MrRay22 electric piano,FM7, MinimogueVA, a GM SFX bank and a Collossus string pad overlay for any active channels, all of which is controlled via midi patch and channel change. Works like a charm.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 76 posts since 4 Mar, 2006 from Port Charlotte, FL
Thanks guys
I love the feel and layout of it already. Since this is new to me, I am trying to start off with my custom bank on B4II. I turned off bank change, and chose go to source on receptor setup. I am stuck on the patch change assignment on the Axiom. I have 109-120 in B4II GUI that I want to access on the fly.
I love the feel and layout of it already. Since this is new to me, I am trying to start off with my custom bank on B4II. I turned off bank change, and chose go to source on receptor setup. I am stuck on the patch change assignment on the Axiom. I have 109-120 in B4II GUI that I want to access on the fly.
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- KVRer
- 24 posts since 24 May, 2004
Make sure the Patch Bank MSB/LSB are set correctly in your Axiom preset. There's a knowledge base article on how to find the correct one:bernie9 wrote:Thanks guys
I love the feel and layout of it already. Since this is new to me, I am trying to start off with my custom bank on B4II. I turned off bank change, and chose go to source on receptor setup. I am stuck on the patch change assignment on the Axiom. I have 109-120 in B4II GUI that I want to access on the fly.
http://www.plugorama.com/customer/kb.php?kbid=04121601
and there's also a file which lists all the installed patch banks under the Reports directory. The Receptor manual has more information.
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
I just used the drum pads for patch change - set them to cc 145, then set the patch info. Works great - just be sure to keep the midi control channel and the mixer slot the same (slot 1 for midi channel 1, etc.)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 76 posts since 4 Mar, 2006 from Port Charlotte, FL
I am sure that is preferable, but the only way I managed to do it, was using receptor. I changed the presets, then saved each one as a single multi, one in each of 12 empty folders in a bank. I finally figured out the MSB/LSB, and Program, and entered that from the number on the receptor screen. Now, when I am in Program on the Axiom, I can enter the number, or hit - or +, and the program instantly changes.
Since this is the first time I ever used a controller beyond setting the channel, I feel good about my success. This is only one small step in a very simple procedure. Hopefully, I can someday get into the kind of changes you do.
What do you see as the negative aspects of this method ? It is better to correct my procedure now, rather than later.
Since this is the first time I ever used a controller beyond setting the channel, I feel good about my success. This is only one small step in a very simple procedure. Hopefully, I can someday get into the kind of changes you do.
What do you see as the negative aspects of this method ? It is better to correct my procedure now, rather than later.
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
If you're using Enigma to store your setups, you can always re-do it later, so don't worry about propcesses too much yet. Get your head around the patch management in the Receptor and programming methodoloy of the Axiom; ideas will suggest themselves.
One problem I have had with your method is that channels are labels 1-16, not 0-15, while patches are numbered 0-127, not 1-128. A minor inconsistency, but mildly annoying nonetheless.
I use +/- with preset change(Recall ##, then setups change in aqbout 1/2 second, and my presets on the drum pads happen instantly.But the beauty of ths combo is that it will accomodate beth methods easily.
Learning devices like the Axiom is a series of small steps. Once you've done the first, the others will follow - but it comes down to how you want to use your rig. I want the maxium flexibility for live gigs when I don't know what they're going to throw at me next, so each Axiom preset is designed to control one instrument (channel.) If I want the instrumet to respond to patch change (synth sounds) I put the oyshical and midi chnnel together, if I want the pacth to NOT respond to a patch change (I have a split setup with the piano lower, synth upper and want just the synth to change) I put the piano in a different mixer slot than the midi channel - works great. I have ridiculous flexibility and many options this way. I'll publish a full detailed setup when I'm done with the background pad control (I have one button on the Axiom that toggles a string pad layer behinmd my lower manual keys, and am working out easy ways to change the pad.)
But this is probably the most powerful combimation of capabilities I've ever seen on a portable rig.
One problem I have had with your method is that channels are labels 1-16, not 0-15, while patches are numbered 0-127, not 1-128. A minor inconsistency, but mildly annoying nonetheless.
I use +/- with preset change(Recall ##, then setups change in aqbout 1/2 second, and my presets on the drum pads happen instantly.But the beauty of ths combo is that it will accomodate beth methods easily.
Learning devices like the Axiom is a series of small steps. Once you've done the first, the others will follow - but it comes down to how you want to use your rig. I want the maxium flexibility for live gigs when I don't know what they're going to throw at me next, so each Axiom preset is designed to control one instrument (channel.) If I want the instrumet to respond to patch change (synth sounds) I put the oyshical and midi chnnel together, if I want the pacth to NOT respond to a patch change (I have a split setup with the piano lower, synth upper and want just the synth to change) I put the piano in a different mixer slot than the midi channel - works great. I have ridiculous flexibility and many options this way. I'll publish a full detailed setup when I'm done with the background pad control (I have one button on the Axiom that toggles a string pad layer behinmd my lower manual keys, and am working out easy ways to change the pad.)
But this is probably the most powerful combimation of capabilities I've ever seen on a portable rig.