new version of TUNAFISH ... plus cool new free plugin !!!
- KVRAF
- 4315 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
I tried Tunafish & when I select my ASIO4All drivers it suddently stutter. When I use the MME drivers it works ok but I can't put a lot of VSTs. I find it strange that my ASIO4All settings work good with FL Studio but have problems with TuneFish. Do I have to tweak my ASIO4All settings speceficly for TunaFish? I love TunaFish concept & dig the freeze function a lot!
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- KVRAF
- 4315 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
OK, tweak my setting for my ASIO4ALL drivers, running fine right now. 
I truly dig the concept behind TunaFish, it's even push me to re-install Hammerhead to make groove & beat to import into TunaFish!
The Freeze function is a god send & very very usefull. I know it's nothing new to the software market but it's the first time I'm trying it & I really dig it.
The only problem I can see so far is it's stability. When I freeze more than two track that little freeze logo just 'stick' into the screen even when the freezing is finish. I can still use the program but having this freeze logo in front of everything is kind of anoying.
Also, I got access violation messages I think two times. If you want Bram I can send you the screenshots.
It also crash or 'hung up' with some VST taking to much computer. But I think it's normal considering the amount of VST instruments & effects out there that the program have to deal with.
If you have a list of VSTs that are known to work fine in TunaFish please send the link!
I truly dig the concept behind TunaFish, it's even push me to re-install Hammerhead to make groove & beat to import into TunaFish!
The Freeze function is a god send & very very usefull. I know it's nothing new to the software market but it's the first time I'm trying it & I really dig it.
The only problem I can see so far is it's stability. When I freeze more than two track that little freeze logo just 'stick' into the screen even when the freezing is finish. I can still use the program but having this freeze logo in front of everything is kind of anoying.
Also, I got access violation messages I think two times. If you want Bram I can send you the screenshots.
It also crash or 'hung up' with some VST taking to much computer. But I think it's normal considering the amount of VST instruments & effects out there that the program have to deal with.
If you have a list of VSTs that are known to work fine in TunaFish please send the link!
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Netherlands
If you could let me know which plugins are problematic then that would really help me. Often it's a matter of tweaking some little thing internally to get certain plugins working.SampleScience wrote:Also, I got access violation messages I think two times. If you want Bram I can send you the screenshots.
It also crash or 'hung up' with some VST taking to much computer. But I think it's normal considering the amount of VST instruments & effects out there that the program have to deal with.
Glad you like the concept.
cheers,
Bram
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- KVRist
- 234 posts since 7 Feb, 2006
The $30 I paid for Tunafish has been well worth it. A couple of additional comments for what it's worth:
Good things:
1. The interface is great. By far the easiest to use intro-sequencer out there. Actually, I particularly like the overview section.
2. Having drum tracks separate from the sampler is a simple, commonsense idea. Good thinking. Also, the pre-loaded samples are pretty good.
3. Fun, built in effects that are effortless. About time someone did this.
OK, a few problem areas:
1. The most serious is the inability to set buffers/latency from within the program, at least for MME. I have not tried ASIO4All, but I have a decent machine, and I have trouble running more than a few VSTs in Tunafish. Given the potential market to users looking for an easy piece of software, this could cause a fair amount of frustration.
2. I usually cut and paste in the overview section, but when I've used the sequencer, I've sometimes had what seems to be notes sustaining from one sequence into the next -- and not due to release times on the VSTs or anything like that. Not sure what causes that.
3. This is more of a wish-list item: being able to select an area and increase or decrease the velocity of the notes within that area. This would be a big help for those of us that don't do live tweaking.
Anyway, it's a fun product. I'm glad you support 3/4 time now -- my first Tunafish project (you can listen to it if you follow the link at my signature: "Twilight Memories") is sort of a tribute to my childhood days of listening to an old Wurlitzer, and I had to work around the lack of a set structure for triplets. You might want to add support for 12/8 and 9/8 so people can do blues/swing type stuff also.
I know it's meant to be a basic product, and for $30 it's a pretty good deal. Fix the buffering issue, and it will be great deal.
Good things:
1. The interface is great. By far the easiest to use intro-sequencer out there. Actually, I particularly like the overview section.
2. Having drum tracks separate from the sampler is a simple, commonsense idea. Good thinking. Also, the pre-loaded samples are pretty good.
3. Fun, built in effects that are effortless. About time someone did this.
OK, a few problem areas:
1. The most serious is the inability to set buffers/latency from within the program, at least for MME. I have not tried ASIO4All, but I have a decent machine, and I have trouble running more than a few VSTs in Tunafish. Given the potential market to users looking for an easy piece of software, this could cause a fair amount of frustration.
2. I usually cut and paste in the overview section, but when I've used the sequencer, I've sometimes had what seems to be notes sustaining from one sequence into the next -- and not due to release times on the VSTs or anything like that. Not sure what causes that.
3. This is more of a wish-list item: being able to select an area and increase or decrease the velocity of the notes within that area. This would be a big help for those of us that don't do live tweaking.
Anyway, it's a fun product. I'm glad you support 3/4 time now -- my first Tunafish project (you can listen to it if you follow the link at my signature: "Twilight Memories") is sort of a tribute to my childhood days of listening to an old Wurlitzer, and I had to work around the lack of a set structure for triplets. You might want to add support for 12/8 and 9/8 so people can do blues/swing type stuff also.
I know it's meant to be a basic product, and for $30 it's a pretty good deal. Fix the buffering issue, and it will be great deal.
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- KVRAF
- 2427 posts since 16 Jun, 2005 from Somewhere, NV
Any specific reason for not wanting to try ASIO4ALL? I would encourage you to at least give it a shot...you may really like what you hear...just my 2-cents.goldbaker wrote:...the inability to set buffers/latency from within the program, at least for MME. I have not tried ASIO4All, but I have a decent machine, and I have trouble running more than a few VSTs in Tunafish.
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- KVRist
- 234 posts since 7 Feb, 2006
Actually, I'm going to try it today. I guess what I'm getting at is that the program should be very attractive to newer users and people that want sometime easy to use right out of the box, so to speak. Those types of people don't want to go looking around to download more software to make the program work.bobsled wrote:Any specific reason for not wanting to try ASIO4ALL? I would encourage you to at least give it a shot...you may really like what you hear...just my 2-cents.goldbaker wrote:...the inability to set buffers/latency from within the program, at least for MME. I have not tried ASIO4All, but I have a decent machine, and I have trouble running more than a few VSTs in Tunafish.
It's not a big deal, I still like the program.
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- KVRist
- 234 posts since 7 Feb, 2006
OK, I've got Asio4all working, but still a few questions.
1. My machine only has MME -- so I keep it set to MME and select Soundmax as the choice, it seems to work OK. (Selecting soundmax from the ASIO diaolog.) If I select ASIO, I get an access violation and my computer (XP) crashes. Weird.
2. MORE SERIOUS: in the overview section -- if I cut in the middle of a section, it seems to delete areas when I try to paste. Please make sure that cut and paste works properly from the Overview section.
Anyway, I still use Tunafish regularly. Just trying to iron out the bugs.
1. My machine only has MME -- so I keep it set to MME and select Soundmax as the choice, it seems to work OK. (Selecting soundmax from the ASIO diaolog.) If I select ASIO, I get an access violation and my computer (XP) crashes. Weird.
2. MORE SERIOUS: in the overview section -- if I cut in the middle of a section, it seems to delete areas when I try to paste. Please make sure that cut and paste works properly from the Overview section.
Anyway, I still use Tunafish regularly. Just trying to iron out the bugs.
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Netherlands
That's weird.. I don't doubt your observation but I've cut/pasted hundreds of times from the overview and never had this problem.. I'll see if I can reproduce this.goldbaker wrote:2. MORE SERIOUS: in the overview section -- if I cut in the middle of a section, it seems to delete areas when I try to paste. Please make sure that cut and paste works properly from the Overview section.
Thanks for posting.
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Netherlands
Update: I've cut/copy/pasted as much as I could to try and get it to malfunction, but I can't reproduce this problem - unless I use "Paste Mix" which isn't supposed to insert but mix instead.brambos wrote:I'll see if I can reproduce this.goldbaker wrote:2. MORE SERIOUS: in the overview section -- if I cut in the middle of a section, it seems to delete areas when I try to paste. Please make sure that cut and paste works properly from the Overview section.
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- KVRist
- 234 posts since 7 Feb, 2006
Thanks. Maybe I'm losing my mind. The problem only seems to be on one song. Very odd. I started it before the most recent update. Maybe that has something to do with it. Sorry to bother you.brambos wrote:Update: I've cut/copy/pasted as much as I could to try and get it to malfunction, but I can't reproduce this problem - unless I use "Paste Mix" which isn't supposed to insert but mix instead.brambos wrote:I'll see if I can reproduce this.goldbaker wrote:2. MORE SERIOUS: in the overview section -- if I cut in the middle of a section, it seems to delete areas when I try to paste. Please make sure that cut and paste works properly from the Overview section.
In general the most recent update seems to run pretty well, and asio4all definitely has helped with the cpu issues.
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Netherlands
Let me know if it happens again. I'll see if I can reproduce it using songs from previous versions then (although I haven't changed anything in the copy/paste functionality).goldbaker wrote:Thanks. Maybe I'm losing my mind. The problem only seems to be on one song. Very odd. I started it before the most recent update. Maybe that has something to do with it. Sorry to bother you.brambos wrote:Update: I've cut/copy/pasted as much as I could to try and get it to malfunction, but I can't reproduce this problem - unless I use "Paste Mix" which isn't supposed to insert but mix instead.brambos wrote:I'll see if I can reproduce this.goldbaker wrote:2. MORE SERIOUS: in the overview section -- if I cut in the middle of a section, it seems to delete areas when I try to paste. Please make sure that cut and paste works properly from the Overview section.
In general the most recent update seems to run pretty well, and asio4all definitely has helped with the cpu issues.
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- KVRAF
- 3378 posts since 27 Feb, 2004 from Paris (france)
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Netherlands
Just a quick note: I've made a small update of Tunafish to support tweakable MME buffersizes.goldbaker wrote:The most serious is the inability to set buffers/latency from within the program, at least for MME.
Cheers,
Bram
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- KVRist
- 234 posts since 7 Feb, 2006
Thanks! I just checked it out. This is a big help. I hope the program is selling well for you. For someone that wants to just open a program and get going, Tunafish is really great, and I actually learned quite a bit from it.brambos wrote:Just a quick note: I've made a small update of Tunafish to support tweakable MME buffersizes.goldbaker wrote:The most serious is the inability to set buffers/latency from within the program, at least for MME.
Cheers,
Bram
I'll be using it a lot more now. The sequencer function seems to run more smoothly also. There may be a few other little "fixes" that I might list sometime if you don't mind. (I know you're not designing custom software for me!). These are not really bugs or desired features, but minor disturbances that might confuse a newer user.
Thanks again for your attention to the program. It's working great now.


