Pianoteq - Looks Like new Modelled Piano
- something special
- 8627 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Birmingham, Alabama
Thanks for your vote of confidence Tek; but anything I say should be taken with a grain of salt. It's all subjective to the listener; and that being said, I didn't like the demos on the site.Teksonik wrote:When it comes to pianos Bluedad is the go to expert in my opinion. Have you tried the demo and what are your thoughts?bluedad wrote:Cellomangler wrote:In addition to using a modeled or real tube preamp or mic emulator to add some "reality" to the pure modeled piano I'd like to see a couple of more editable parameters in the software:
String rust, fur ball dampening, pedal and bench squeek, and brick-n-brack rattling. ..Or maybe I'm just too used to my aging Chickering..!![]()
I spend my day trying to correct these things on real pianos, and you folks actually want to add them in!
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- KVRist
- 38 posts since 25 Aug, 2006
Hi everyone,
Thanks for the new interesting and entertaining posts.
We have released a new Mac version that takes care of a bug (sampling frequency changes were not taken into account by the AU plugin). You can download it from our site.
If any of you have more bugs to report, do not hesitate to contact us through our support form on our site.
Regards,
Niclas Fogwall
Sales & support
Pianoteq
www.pianoteq.com
Thanks for the new interesting and entertaining posts.
We have released a new Mac version that takes care of a bug (sampling frequency changes were not taken into account by the AU plugin). You can download it from our site.
If any of you have more bugs to report, do not hesitate to contact us through our support form on our site.
Regards,
Niclas Fogwall
Sales & support
Pianoteq
www.pianoteq.com
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- KVRAF
- 1966 posts since 22 Mar, 2002 from Timisoara, Romania
it is a big step in acoustic modelling and it sounds good but ...
why i still use samples:
on pianoteq's demo:
- high notes sound more like rhodes / not really acoustic
- very low notes when sustained the resonance sounds like a pattern ( loop ) not really like on a real piano
- the hammer's "plonk" sounds almost the same for all notes to me - it doesnt sound too real ...
- the price is too high - its novel - its good but ...
- user cant prepair diffrent keys - just the whole
it sounds like a good modelled piano but maybe the imperfections could be modelled too somehow. the team is nice and enthusiastic so i hope pianoteq 1.5 will blow me away
Felix Petrescu
_makunouchi bento
why i still use samples:
on pianoteq's demo:
- high notes sound more like rhodes / not really acoustic
- very low notes when sustained the resonance sounds like a pattern ( loop ) not really like on a real piano
- the hammer's "plonk" sounds almost the same for all notes to me - it doesnt sound too real ...
- the price is too high - its novel - its good but ...
- user cant prepair diffrent keys - just the whole
it sounds like a good modelled piano but maybe the imperfections could be modelled too somehow. the team is nice and enthusiastic so i hope pianoteq 1.5 will blow me away
Felix Petrescu
_makunouchi bento
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- KVRAF
- 3644 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from beach side australia
just tried the demo (luckily i play mostly on the white notes
) , very nice work.. sounds more direct than artvista virtual grand and malmsjo and is enjoyable to play , a bit out of my price range for now ,but maybe down the track..
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
well, there' s one to avoid in the classical series as far as i know, this one except these are unfair remarks,
but...
BTW how does donald duck's farting sounDs like ?
but...
BTW how does donald duck's farting sounDs like ?
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- KVRAF
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
I tried this yesterday and I have to say it's impressive technology. It can't quite match the best massieve sample libraries yet, but it shows a lot of promise in this area. The release sound is pretty much perfect, for example. I couldn't get the decay to behave quite right yet, but I suspect with some tweaking it'll get closer.
I found the biggest strengh (like with any physical modelling synth) to be the ability to create oddness. Funny how it starts to sound a bit like my old SY77 when abused to the extremes. Perhaps this is a clue to how the modelling was achieved? Clever FM or additive synthesis? It sure sounds that way occasionally.
I found the biggest strengh (like with any physical modelling synth) to be the ability to create oddness. Funny how it starts to sound a bit like my old SY77 when abused to the extremes. Perhaps this is a clue to how the modelling was achieved? Clever FM or additive synthesis? It sure sounds that way occasionally.
- something special
- 8627 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Birmingham, Alabama
yesegarrard wrote:Are you a tuner/technician?bluedad wrote:![]()
I spend my day trying to correct these things on real pianos, and you folks actually want to add them in!
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- KVRist
- 115 posts since 8 Apr, 2004 from Milky Way
I'm curious. When I hit the same chord repeatedly the polyphony goes up. If this is really physically modeled, shouldn't the polyphony remain the same as I am only hitting the same strings over and over?
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- KVRAF
- 2830 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas
If it's really physically modeled the polyphony should be at a constant 88.....InfiNeat wrote:I'm curious. When I hit the same chord repeatedly the polyphony goes up. If this is really physically modeled, shouldn't the polyphony remain the same as I am only hitting the same strings over and over?
Victor.
- KVRAF
- 37431 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I suspect they have had to make a compromise there to conserve CPU with a voice stealing algo of some kind - a neccesary trade-off perhaps? Can't really see how any synth could offer 88 voices on most current PC's - even Synth1 would struggle (only one I know that comes close is a DSP powered Hammond I own)VicDiesel wrote:If it's really physically modeled the polyphony should be at a constant 88.....InfiNeat wrote:I'm curious. When I hit the same chord repeatedly the polyphony goes up. If this is really physically modeled, shouldn't the polyphony remain the same as I am only hitting the same strings over and over?
Victor.
