ClassicVerb vs CSR

[Richard Lichten]

Well, hoestly, POCO is great (have one), but Scope wins in effects also, i just name the best ones:
Saturator, standart Modulation FX (all of them) - nothing equal, really
ISAN EQ - best EQ IMO, better than Sony Oxford
ISAN Compressors - same, Saturation stage is incredible
Vinco - better than UAD (had one also)
D-Mute Comp - free and also great
SPL Attacker etc - nothing equal really, save maybe the POCO Sony Oxford thing
Celmo Tape Delays & other Vintage Effects - some are just insanly good
Sonic Timeworks EQ and Comp - also superb, not as good as Isan (maybe the Eq),
but better than the standart PoCO stuff

Verbs - well Masterverb Pro, Sonic Timeworks are somewhat special, but better than VST stuff save maybe CSR/Wizoo, the new ones by the CSR guy are superb, also PL series and some others
i just don't remember.
Also, Scope Effects are simply much cheaper than PoCO'high-end stuff.

(Despite my praise, note that the newer Scope FX need more DSP than comparable PoCo stuff).

@ aMUSED: i forgot the name of the free plate one, but have it somewhere on my HD, if you drop me a pm with mail adress, i send it out to you.

[OMU]

ohoooo

akisd28, thanks for the tip!
JRR will have a big order from me (VSS3 included )

[akisd28]

Glad to be of help.

[susiwong]

CSR is 285 E at thomann.de

Not true, get this
http://www.thomann.de/de/ik_multimedia_ ... ker_le.htm
and the upgrade
http://www.thomann.de/de/ik_multimedia_csr_upgrade.htm
and you'll end up with 200 Euro.
Cheers, susiwong

[OMU]

Very interesting, I'll keep this one in mind too.
Thanks susiwong.

[suthnear]

has anyone here compared the poco verbs (especially the better ones) to an m3000? it strikes me that for around $1800 for the poco plus verbs, the m3000 might be a much cheaper way of achieving similar results.

[brok landers]

I got rid of my Poco, used the money to build another dual-core workstation. With Arts Acoustic or CSR you get that "dsp card quality" now anyway. When I first bught the Poco there were no native reverbs that could compete, but now that's changing...

way to go ...
i also wouldn't buy the poco because of reverbs ...
there's other stuff that the poco handles better ...

[cYrus]

there's still nothing that can compete with the VSS3. and imho i like the classic verb much more than csr or the arts acoustic..

[hifiboom]

VSS3 is not much better than there M5000 algos, its a little bit of paper-iprovement.

I prefer the M5000 over the VSS3 from M3000.

[suthnear]

i also wouldn't buy the poco because of reverbs ...there's other stuff that the poco handles better ...

such as...?

[hifiboom]

i also wouldn't buy the poco because of reverbs ...there's other stuff that the poco handles better ...

such as...?

I vote for Waldorf D-Coder ...

[brok landers]

i also wouldn't buy the poco because of reverbs ...there's other stuff that the poco handles better ...

such as...?

1. http://www.tcelectronic.com/MasterX5
2. http://www.tcelectronic.com/OxfordDynamics
3. http://www.tcelectronic.com/OxfordEQ
4. http://www.tcelectronic.com/inflator
5. http://www.tcelectronic.com/TransMod

these are weapons.

[suthnear]

expensive weapons

Can you run a lot of these at the same time? Or only a few?

[brok landers]

expensive weapons

indeed. but the sound is awesome ...

Can you run a lot of these at the same time? Or only a few?

depends on the plugin.
but i cannot tell you from the poco, i just know these plugs from protools.
they're average hungry in terms of cpu (on protools) ...

[OMU]

You forgot about MD3.