Pianoteq - Looks Like new Modelled Piano

[kevink]

i realise that. in terms of the authenticity of the model, pianoteq is way more convincing as an acoustic piano than ep-3 is for an electric piano.

For whatever it's worth, I strongly disagree here. Lounge Lizard and ziokiller's Mr. Ray are both closer to sounding like a Rhodes than Pianoteq is to sounding like an accoustic piano to my ears. That's not to diss Pianoteq. The accoustic piano is a harder problem.

[aMUSEd]

i realise that. in terms of the authenticity of the model, pianoteq is way more convincing as an acoustic piano than ep-3 is for an electric piano.

For whatever it's worth, I strongly disagree here. Lounge Lizard and ziokiller's Mr. Ray are both closer to sounding like a Rhodes than Pianoteq is to sounding like an accoustic piano to my ears. That's not to diss Pianoteq. The accoustic piano is a harder problem.

Agreed - Pianoteq is fantastic but LL still comes closer to it's original. Perhaps one could argue in terms of the amount of work needed to emulate a real Piano it has achieved more (even though it still has further to go) but there are so many variables here (not least the fact that LL is on v3) that such comparisons become rather meaningless I think.

[meatwalker]

to be honest ive never even played an a electric piano and i dont care for the replicative quality of either of these instruments, i just care how real-like it sounds, and how much i can tweak it. and pianoteq just sounds a f**k of a lot better to me.

[vicious_angel]

Being a truly modelled piano, the sound is created in real time from scratch through a very sophisticated mathematical model, simulating an acoustic piano. It is responding to how the pianist is striking each key and how strings are interacting, just like a real piano does.

It says on the screenshot:
Sampling frequency 44.100 hz , 44 polyphony of 256.

Edit: i don't know if you need a render farm to run it

[aMUSEd]

Being a truly modelled piano, the sound is created in real time from scratch through a very sophisticated mathematical model, simulating an acoustic piano. It is responding to how the pianist is striking each key and how strings are interacting, just like a real piano does.

It says on the screenshot:
Sampling frequency 44.100 hz , 44 polyphony of 256.

Edit: i don't know if you need a render farm to run it

You'd think so but on my relatively humble PC (P4 3.6) I can reach over 200 notes of polyphony (with sustain on) without problems and have managed to reach nearly 240 before hearing even a crackle.

[Cryogenic]

to be honest ive never even played an a electric piano and i dont care for the replicative quality of either of these instruments, i just care how real-like it sounds, and how much i can tweak it. and pianoteq just sounds a f**k of a lot better to me.

So what are you arguing here?
You're clueless.

The Pianoteq may have a "sophisticated mathematical model" and "is responding to how the pianist is striking each key and how strings are interacting", but it doesnt SOUND like a piano.

Nice effort tho. Hope you get there.

[Cordelia]

to be honest ive never even played an a electric piano and i dont care for the replicative quality of either of these instruments, i just care how real-like it sounds

What kind of sentence is that? Replicative = how real-like.
How come every time, when the subject of this piano-ish plug comes up, we get a string of over-excited posts by fans with between 5-50 posts?

[meatwalker]

i meant personally it doesn't matter to me how close the sound is to that of a grand piano or whatever it is spose to model, but how capable it is of generating realistic rich acoustic-like timbres. to me pianoteqs sound seems to have much more depth and character than other pm synths. string studio is pretty good too, probably better as an overall instrument becaues it is much more flexible. at the moment both lack tuning support so i wont buy either but they sound goooooood.

[Cryogenic]

i meant personally it doesn't matter to me how close the sound is to that of a grand piano or whatever it is spose to model, but how capable it is of generating realistic rich acoustic-like timbres. to me pianoteqs sound seems to have much more depth and character than other pm synths. string studio is pretty good too, probably better as an overall instrument becaues it is much more flexible. at the moment both lack tuning support so i wont buy either but they sound goooooood.

The closer the VSTi comes to sound like the acoustic instruments it emulates, the better the "acoustic-like timbres", right?

[aMUSEd]

i meant personally it doesn't matter to me how close the sound is to that of a grand piano or whatever it is spose to model, but how capable it is of generating realistic rich acoustic-like timbres. to me pianoteqs sound seems to have much more depth and character than other pm synths. string studio is pretty good too, probably better as an overall instrument becaues it is much more flexible. at the moment both lack tuning support so i wont buy either but they sound goooooood.

The closer the VSTi comes to sound like the acoustic instruments it emulates, the better the "acoustic-like timbres", right?

I think it's pretty obvious what he's trying to get across - it may not be as close sounding as a sample based instrument (yet) in terms of directly replicating that sound (since samples are direct recordings, not models) but it has more of the feel and dynamic qualities of a real acoustic instrument in relation to how it responds to the player and in that sense is closer in terms of range of expression, character and richness of the sound it produces.

[Cryogenic]

i meant personally it doesn't matter to me how close the sound is to that of a grand piano or whatever it is spose to model, but how capable it is of generating realistic rich acoustic-like timbres. to me pianoteqs sound seems to have much more depth and character than other pm synths. string studio is pretty good too, probably better as an overall instrument becaues it is much more flexible. at the moment both lack tuning support so i wont buy either but they sound goooooood.

The closer the VSTi comes to sound like the acoustic instruments it emulates, the better the "acoustic-like timbres", right?

I think it's pretty obvious what he's trying to get across - it may not be as close sounding as a sample based instrument (yet) in terms of directly replicating that sound (since samples are direct recordings, not models) but it has more of the feel and dynamic qualities of a real acoustic instrument in relation to how it responds to the player and in that sense is closer in terms of range of expression, character and richness of the sound it produces.

The "feel and dynamic qualities" translates to the sound.
If OnePingOnly had these qualities, would it be as great?

[aMUSEd]

i meant personally it doesn't matter to me how close the sound is to that of a grand piano or whatever it is spose to model, but how capable it is of generating realistic rich acoustic-like timbres. to me pianoteqs sound seems to have much more depth and character than other pm synths. string studio is pretty good too, probably better as an overall instrument becaues it is much more flexible. at the moment both lack tuning support so i wont buy either but they sound goooooood.

The closer the VSTi comes to sound like the acoustic instruments it emulates, the better the "acoustic-like timbres", right?

I think it's pretty obvious what he's trying to get across - it may not be as close sounding as a sample based instrument (yet) in terms of directly replicating that sound (since samples are direct recordings, not models) but it has more of the feel and dynamic qualities of a real acoustic instrument in relation to how it responds to the player and in that sense is closer in terms of range of expression, character and richness of the sound it produces.

The "feel and dynamic qualities" translates to the sound.

It's not difficult to grasp - yes sound from an instrument being played has dynamic qualities - this is far more apparent though in a PM instrument which has more of the responsiveness (i.e. "feel") of a real instrument, such as variations due to to subtleties of touch and technique, than in a sample based instrument that only has a certain number of velocity layers and tends to have a more static sound quality (though it can come somewhat closer with techniques like scripting).

[Improv]

i'm a poncy ass licking fag

Hope the meds kick in soon...

[Cryogenic]

It's not difficult to grasp - yes sound from an instrument being played has dynamic qualities - this is far more apparent though in a PM instrument which has more of the responsiveness (i.e. "feel") of a real instrument, such as variations due to to subtleties of touch and technique, than in a sample based instrument that only has a certain number of velocity layers and tends to have a more static sound quality (though it can come somewhat closer with techniques like scripting).

Im not talking samples vs. pm.
Im talking in general.
The closer a VST comes to the intstrument it's emulating, the more 'feel and response" it will have too, because this translates to the sound.

This is not difficult to grasp either.

[Improv]

you are awfully unpolite dude, do you know that !?

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( i thought this needed some "Improvment" what do you think folks ? )

His Mommy and Daddy are down at the Mall, so junior thought he'd be ever so naughty and use bad words on the internet. He's SO daring-ya know?