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lavoll · Post by **lavoll** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:21 pm

"Mouse wheel support for parameter control and zoom"

this was high on my wish list

K-Slash · Post by **K-Slash** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:23 pm

[decipher] wrote:so. how dare someone call a plugin VC-64 ... AND THEN ITS NOT A VIRTUAL c-64 SUPERSIDSYNTHESIZER!?! SCANDALOUS!

VC = Vintage Channel

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64 ? Dunno

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headquest · Post by **headquest** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:24 pm

pethu wrote:
kilroy wrote:One thing for certain...the GUI graphics on this plug are waaaaaay harder on the eyes than Torben's original GAC-1 graphics. His original positioning of the controls is much more intuitive as well.

Give me utility and efficiency over form any time...
+1...

It took me quite some time looking the screenshot to locate the controls for 2nd comp and EQ!

+2

I prefer the ergonomics / ease of functionality of the original GAC1. Having said that, although I own other plugs in the Kjaerhus Golden range I never bought GAC-1, nor was even seriously tempted

. It certainly is not a selling point of S6 for me...

... and I've not actually decided whether or not to upgrade to S6 from S5. With the Live 6 upgrade also imminent, and with the features of the two quickly converging, I may not get both. And overall Live seems to me the way to go out of the two...

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:25 pm

K-Slash wrote: VC = Vintage Channel .

64 ? Dunno .

64-bit audio.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:27 pm

By the way, I notice that Perfect Space is upgraded to v1.3 in the screenshot on the Cakewalk site. And the new version finally credits Voxengo as its creator... "powered by Voxengo".

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:28 pm

kilroy wrote:One thing for certain...the GUI graphics on this plug are waaaaaay harder on the eyes than Torben's original GAC-1 graphics.

I totally agree! VC64 looks great but can't beat GAC-1's functional and clear interface. That's a good example of functional gui VS fancy gui.

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:32 pm

looks

to me!

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:01 pm

one more goal to the gullible consumer who can't get enough vintage rack gui's. Let's wait for the threads where someone will state it sounds better than GAC-1, ie. somehow "warmer" and "with more character".

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:08 pm

Yeah, I dunno...it doesn't have a glowing tube...

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:18 pm

Kingston wrote:one more goal to the gullible consumer who can't get enough vintage rack gui's. Let's wait for the threads where someone will state it sounds better than GAC-1, ie. somehow "warmer" and "with more character".

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that's a pretty digital looking sig you got there, Kingston. (j/k)

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:25 pm

bduffy wrote:Yeah, I dunno...it doesn't have a glowing tube...

I'm not convinced it's going to glow, full stop...

Seriously though, when I read the Sonar 6 specs on the web I was quite excited by the upgrade. Now I've seen the full announcement, oggled at the screenshots, and listened to the audio demos, I'm....

... less than sure.

* Take the audio demo of the drum/bass put in time using the fabulous new Audio Snap features. Is it just me or does the bass sound really grainy in the "after" version?

* Also the new mixer... "redesigned for ergonomic mixing"... basically they just made the knobs look more 3D, right? Other than that its the same as before. And in fact, I don't even like the new look... it's way too rugged for my personal taste. Since when was hardware emulation the next big thing...?

* The Analyst spectrum analyzer continues the Cakewalk tradition of producing at least one ugly plugin for each attractive one they produce. It will look damned fine nestling up to the old "Amp Sim" and "Cyclone".

* Session Drummer 2. From what I can see this is just aimed at complete beginners, right? I don;t see that you can load or mangle your own samples, or any of the other lovely stuff that Ableton's Impulse or Reason's ReDrum can do, let alone the great VST drum plugs out there... I think this one's going to me a missed opportunity. But let's see...

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:42 pm

You know, as a user of both, I can't help but think, looking at the previews, that there ain't much difference between SONAR and Cubase now!

They even look the same now. I mean, come on!:

I'm not criticizing, it's just interesting how close they're becoming. They were so different when I started this job...

EDIT: Yeah, jeez..."Audio Quantize"..."Track Layers"...it's come full circle now.

kylen · Post by **kylen** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:13 am

Kingston wrote:one more goal to the gullible consumer who can't get enough vintage rack gui's. Let's wait for the threads where someone will state it sounds better than GAC-1, ie. somehow "warmer" and "with more character".

Actually I've been thinking about this a lot lately...how much visual input affects my perception of sound, especially when I'm tweaking something. It seems silly I guess but I think my eyes hear things that my ears don't - and vicey versy...

Anyway - hurray for Kjaerhus - I'll get to see (I mean hear) VC64 in action pretty soon...

Jason Brian Merrill · Post by **Jason Brian Merrill** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:34 am

lavoll wrote:"Mouse wheel support for parameter control and zoom"

FLstudio and REAPER have had this for quite some time.... more so REAPER but yeah... glad to see it in SONAR!!!!

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:01 am

Don't hate me but that GUI is faaar more sexyer then voxengo's own.

"Powered by Kjaerhus Audio" VC-64 plug in Sonar 6