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accvi · Post by **accvi** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:14 pm

yes, thats it. but i feel comfortable with the built in filters as well. the little horse

our zebra

its great

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:26 pm

kuniklo wrote:You're looking forward to the more Virus-like filters Urs mentioned in his previous posts (as am I) and then ... something about little horses?

Oh oh... don't misunderstand me... these filters are *not* going to be Virus like. At least, not necessarily.

I have a bit mixed feelings, they need a lot of tweaks, but one thing I can say: Last time I heard such a self oscillation was on an analog synth (if we forget the fact that I heard Andy Simper's insane filter emulations

).

Let's put it so: I got something which could be the base of a great sounding filter, with proper resonance beyond the audible range. It's absolutely clean sounding now, almost like a void character, but I guess that I could model some intrigueing non-linearities easily.

Cheers,

Urs

accvi · Post by **accvi** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:28 pm

and god-zebra, forgive me my drunkness

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:33 pm

Urs wrote: Oh oh... don't misunderstand me... these filters are *not* going to be Virus like. At least, not necessarily.

Let's put that evil V-word behind us before this thread turns into another flame war.

I have a bit mixed feelings, they need a lot of tweaks, but one thing I can say: Last time I heard such a self oscillation was on an analog synth (if we forget the fact that I heard Andy Simper's insane filter emulations ).

Don't get me wrong - I think Zebra's filters are superb. Lots of choices of genuinely different filters too. Still, I'd really like to see a new filter type with those fatter FabFilter/Vaz K/Vaz S style resonance and drive characteristics. I don't always want that sound but I haven't been able to quite find it in Z2 on those occasions I did want it.

Let's put it so: I got something which could be the base of a great sounding filter, with proper resonance beyond the audible range. It's absolutely clean sounding now, almost like a void character, but I guess that I could model some intrigueing non-linearities easily.

I'll be first in line if you need a tester for it, but first you have to build that uber drumsynth you promised me!

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:43 pm

kuniklo wrote:I'll be first in line if you need a tester for it, but first you have to build that uber drumsynth you promised me!

Ah yeah, that one.

I hope that no plugin ever will require as much work as Zebra 2 again. Well, I'm sure of this, because the most work went into the engine, not necessarily the algorithms...

So, let's see what we get this year done out of the current plans:

MFM2
Filterscape 1.5 (2 new plugs)
drum thing
low-cost synth
freeware competition
compressor bundle
rompler
sampler
host
signature synth

Cheers,

Urs

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:46 pm

Urs wrote: So, let's see what we get this year done out of the current plans:

MFM2
Filterscape 1.5 (2 new plugs)
drum thing
low-cost synth
freeware competition
compressor bundle
rompler
sampler
host
signature synth

Good lord! I'm sure your girlfriend will put a stop to at least half of that!

Move that drumsynth up to the top! Your only real competition there is Microtonic, which is great but very basic, and Ultrabeat, which is a monster that not even Logic fanatics use.

Zebra isn't already your "signature synth"?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:56 pm

Hehehe... well, yeah, lots of ideas...

... but I really hope it doesn't take 2 years again to get one of them done

Drum thing has good chances, because I already do a drum machine for a German magazine CD. So, some basic knowledge is already here, I just need to add that artificial intelligence thing to it...

At the moment, the compressor bundle is my favourite. People keep asking me for Fishfillets for Intel Mac, and when I tell them the story (no-go...), they ask for an alternative...

Signature synth... in my thinking this is something like software developer + renoun patch designer -> preset machine. Only, I'm gonna work with a really amazing patch designer for this, and the synth is gonna include some of his way-of-working.

Well, ask me in my next life if I got everything done in my previous that I wanted to

Later,

Urs

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:06 pm

Urs wrote: Drum thing has good chances, because I already do a drum machine for a German magazine CD. So, some basic knowledge is already here, I just need to add that artificial intelligence thing to it...

Excellent!

At the moment, the compressor bundle is my favourite. People keep asking me for Fishfillets for Intel Mac, and when I tell them the story (no-go...), they ask for an alternative...

There certainly is a dearth of compressor options on the Mac. I wouldn't mind a couple of alternatives, although Voxengo and Kjaerhus have both promised Mac ports. I really do think there's a huge gaping hole in the drum synth market right now though that I think you mightly be uniquely qualified to fill. The new rack features in a lot of hosts make it easier to use a regular synth as a drum instrument but it's still not quite the same as a dedicated tool.

Signature synth... in my thinking this is something like software developer + renoun patch designer -> preset machine. Only, I'm gonna work with a really amazing patch designer for this, and the synth is gonna include some of his way-of-working.

You're going to have a hard time topping Zebra 2 I think, but this sounds like an interesting project. Sort of like Papen's Blue, I take it? My vote is for Howard Scarr.

Well, ask me in my next life if I got everything done in my previous that I wanted to

You've already done more than most of us so it's all just extra credit from here on out.

(Except for the drum synth. That one's due by 06/2007).

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:22 pm

Just a short one (tired...):

The compressor bundle won't be the usual thing. Got some spiffy ideas here...

Your vote... let's just say... would be cool, wouldn't it?

Urs

suthnear · Post by **suthnear** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:48 am

Urs,

been away for a long time because, TBH, z2 has just been working for me. I actually forgot that it wasn't a final release

Which only makes me admire your integrity even more in carrying this thing through in exactly the way you said you would. And the end result is brilliant to boot.

thank you so much

Pierre

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:04 am

Urs' brain has turned into some sort of self-replicating synth-making machine

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:08 am

Urs wrote: The compressor bundle won't be the usual thing. Got some spiffy ideas here...

and a spiffy idea is just an 'l' away from a..

Derek up North · Post by **Derek up North** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:36 am

spaceman wrote:
Urs wrote: The compressor bundle won't be the usual thing. Got some spiffy ideas here...
and a spiffy idea is just an 'l' away from a..

spiffy ideal ??

Regards,

Derek

wonshu · Post by **wonshu** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:47 am

hmmm... finally getting it...

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:28 pm

I still think that Spliff was one of the best German bands ever...

Urs

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