Well, I finally got around to a test drive of LUNA Free PR3. I like what I see fairly well. It's got a kind of elegant simplicity, although I think I'm grokking it a bit quicker having played with CMuzys (e.g., knowing to try out recording mixer strip fader moves). A couple of questions:
1) It appears that when recording audio, there's no end-to-end monitoring at present, right? So, do I understand correctly that I've got to configure the Patchmix setup on my EMU 0404 to give me both the audio playback from LUNA and a passthrough of the audio I'm recording if I need to hear it (e.g., my digital piano)? That seems to work fine, but I wanted to check if I was overlooking something.
2) Is there any way at present to deal with time signatures other than 4/4? I've been working on a song in 6/8. As I recall, CMuzys is flexible about time signature (tho I forget how to do it at the moment). Is that available or planned for LUNA?
3) Do you plan to expand the Value 2 editor with some of the nifty graphics forms (beams, unipolar curve, etc.) that CMuzys had? Or are they there now and I'm just overlooking them?
4) Is it possible to merge two MIDI parts or record an overlay onto an existing part? For example, if I record a drum loop with kick and snare, and then want to record hats and toms on another pass, is there any way to end up with one part instead of two?
I'm going to play with this some more as time permits.
DaveL
LUNA Free: Impressions & Questions
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- KVRian
- 951 posts since 14 Apr, 2004 from Maryland, USA
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
On point 2: right-click the composition background and select Composition properties. There you can set beats per bar (amongst other obscure stuff).
On point 4: you can select all the events in one sequence and paste them into the other. Or were you after something else?
On point 4: you can select all the events in one sequence and paste them into the other. Or were you after something else?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 951 posts since 14 Apr, 2004 from Maryland, USA
That will be nice, if not a crucial thing. Current setup made me go back and learn a little more about Emu Patchmix and signal routing, which isn't a bad thing.Caco wrote:Regarding point 1, you will be able to monitor your audio through the mixer strips in LUNA PR4 if I understand you correctly
OK, didn't think of that. See it now. Does the song title set there have any relationship to the name of the session file?pljones wrote:On point 2: right-click the composition background and select Composition properties. There you can set beats per bar (amongst other obscure stuff).
Well, no, I wasn't. But I thought I tried that without success. Maybe I was just getting fuzzy-brained. I'll give it another shot. Standard Control-C/X/V for copy / cut / paste editing, right?pljones wrote:On point 4: you can select all the events in one sequence and paste them into the other. Or were you after something else?
For drum editing in particular, it seems like it would be nice to have some things available in the sequence editor on a context menu that you get when right-clicking on a note on the keyboard at left:
1) Select all notes at this pitch
2) Select & copy all notes at this pitch
3) Select & cut all notes at this pitch
4) Transpose all notes at this pitch
Also, a possible bug: when I tried to Save Session As ... and give it a filename that was all caps, LUNA apparently failed to create a session file. When I used lowercase I was fine.
DaveL
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Computer Music September 2006 has a handy intro to LUNA/CMusic on pages 48 & 49. I wouldn't have known this otherwise:
Select all notes at this pitch: Shift and click the note on the piano keyboard.
(Indeed, I'd already forgotten -- but remembered they'd had it in the article..!)
Then you can Ctrl-C or Ctrl-X for copy/cut. Transpose: just drag the selection with the mouse..? (Okay, you risk shifting the timing...)
Select all notes at this pitch: Shift and click the note on the piano keyboard.
(Indeed, I'd already forgotten -- but remembered they'd had it in the article..!)
Then you can Ctrl-C or Ctrl-X for copy/cut. Transpose: just drag the selection with the mouse..? (Okay, you risk shifting the timing...)
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 951 posts since 14 Apr, 2004 from Maryland, USA
I'm not surprised, seems like an obvious thing to do early on, even given Jo's stated goals about simplicity and evenness of evolution of the program.pljones wrote:Computer Music September 2006 has a handy intro to LUNA/CMusic on pages 48 & 49. I wouldn't have known this otherwise:
Select all notes at this pitch: Shift and click the note on the piano keyboard.
(Indeed, I'd already forgotten -- but remembered they'd had it in the article..!)
I've gotta get me a CM subscription; it's too hard to reliably find it in the bookstores here in Maryland.
Good stuff, thanks. I know some programs have two drags with the mouse: one with & one without a modifier key. One way keeps the absolute timing of all the notes the same, the other keeps their relative timing the same but lets you shift the group forward/back as a whole. That'd be a good feature to have.pljones wrote:Then you can Ctrl-C or Ctrl-X for copy/cut. Transpose: just drag the selection with the mouse..? (Okay, you risk shifting the timing...)
DaveL
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 951 posts since 14 Apr, 2004 from Maryland, USA
Have now demonstrated that I just wasn't paying attention, because this sort of copy / paste works fine. I don't know what the heck I did the first time!DaveL60 wrote:Well, no, I wasn't. But I thought I tried that without success. Maybe I was just getting fuzzy-brained. I'll give it another shot.pljones wrote:On point 4: you can select all the events in one sequence and paste them into the other. Or were you after something else?
DaveL
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
You are not alone on that. See PR3 thread for how long it took me to post the right links to a pair of MP3 files..!