KVR Audio

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:28 pm

Although I know I will upgrade to this to some point, my workflow is such that I just don't see awfully many important new features that would actually benefit my music and production.

Seems to me it's the same ol' Steinberg style upgrade, with plenty of slap-on new gadgets, but nothing substantial to improve workflow.

Strip away the ableton style theme tweaks and there's actually awfully little truly new there...

for me anyway.

now if stability has been improved and a few substantial workspace/screenset linking and editor related bugs have been squashed, count me in.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:34 pm

Majken wrote:
bduffy wrote:Cool! I envy! Which magazine (if you can say)?
It's Studio Magazine, which is a swedish mag - http://www.studio.se/

/Majken

Oh, ja! I lived in Stockholm for 4 years, many moons ago, so I've forgotten almost all my Swedish. Guess it's of no use to me!

That explains how you got it so fast.

stag · Post by **stag** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:51 pm

Wrong thread, innit?
VST3 with sidechaining and intelligent handling of DSP.
Media Bay also includes browsing ACID style... we have the explorer for that

but these are going to be the best well spent €200 in years for me.

Goldstein · Post by **Goldstein** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:03 pm

I wonder if it is really a complete rewrite of the core engine... and how the application will benefit from that.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:04 pm

Goldstein wrote:I wonder if it is really a complete rewrite of the core engine... and how the application will benefit from that.

Did they say that?

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:12 pm

MPEX 3, printed manual, track presets, transient designer, insert drag, lots of customization possible with presets, media browser, VST 3 with dynamic load, integrated VSTi tracks, control room, lots more, not even considering the new plugs (though most of them will probably be more interesting to newbies), all in all it looks like nothing has happened since SX 1 !

Cheers, susiwong

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:15 pm

bduffy wrote:
Goldstein wrote:I wonder if it is really a complete rewrite of the core engine... and how the application will benefit from that.
Did they say that?

They didn't. I can't say I trust the little birdie that sang to me much anymore... having seen what actually got released.

pavvel · Post by **pavvel** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:20 pm

same old sh*t reorganised, crap effects, crap synths, loads more bugs...oh yeh and a new box maybe.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:22 pm

Kingston wrote:
bduffy wrote:
Goldstein wrote:I wonder if it is really a complete rewrite of the core engine... and how the application will benefit from that.
Did they say that?
They didn't. I can't say I trust the little birdie that sang to me much anymore... having seen what actually got released.

Right, I thought I missed it or something. Now that would rock. Or it probably wouldn't.

stag · Post by **stag** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:39 pm

susiwong wrote:MPEX 3, printed manual, track presets, transient designer, insert drag, lots of customization possible with presets, media browser, VST 3 with dynamic load, integrated VSTi tracks, control room, lots more, not even considering the new plugs (though most of them will probably be more interesting to newbies), all in all it looks like nothing has happened since SX 1 !
Cheers, susiwong

Hi susi, mom always told me there are all kinds everywhere.

no worries, these guys are cool just a little bit jealous... it got worst when apple swichted to Inlel... you know low self opinion... a mess. I know i should be more comprehensive or just log off, the truth: this people is an entertaining bunch.

Majken · Post by **Majken** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:48 pm

Pawel wrote:same old sh*t reorganised, crap effects, crap synths, loads more bugs...oh yeh and a new box maybe.

Awww.. Logic not working out for you and now you wanna switch back?

/Majken

Marc JX8P · Post by **Marc JX8P** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:05 pm

I think the track presets and the media library will be the biggest thing for my workflow. I also love that they finally added instrument tracks so you won't need two tracks for your VSTi's and the fact that you'll be able to click and drag inserts - even between channels! The new effects and instruments look lovely too; I'm especially interested in Halion One with those Motif waves.

Still, all in all the track presets and the media library have me really excited. It just seems to be a well thought out system and promises to be very intuitive to use.

rSphere · Post by **rSphere** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:21 pm

i think the media library is pretty extraordinary actually... it's much more than it sounds like. this is one thing that could have a huge impact on my work. basically everything can be re-used from any project - even entire submixes. but more than re-used..it can be auditioned in the media browser without loading intot the project. So every sample, every vsti patch, every midi part, every electric bass or vocal recording, and so forth becomes a re-usable element..to be browsed and added to another project.
yes, this will help...

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:25 pm

@ stag,

no problem for me, I like to state my point of view clearly and enjoy others doing so, too.
I've been learning a lot since I found this place, and been having loads of fun, too.
Of course Cubase 4 can't hold a candle to the bigger hosts like ---censored---, especially those which are costing up to 1/10th of Steinberg's price.

I'm a struggling musician, mostly live, but SX has paid back its price several times already. No big stuff, no major releases, but still ...
Plus I immensely enjoy working with it.
Good enough for me.

Cheers, susiwong

stag · Post by **stag** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:42 pm

hi susi:
Well, you say it better than i susi: I enjoy working with SX too.
Anyway, I think Steinberg is the coolest, they really listen to their user base and find time to come up with exciting new stuff: we asked for browsing loops, they give us Media bay, we ask for sidechaining they give us VST3 and on and on.
I only wonder how the plug developer still have the patience to develop AU

What you think is on the money in Cubase 4