KVR Audio

Richard Lichten · Post by **Richard Lichten** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:17 am

Hi all,

i am currently looking into sample manipulation fx of the crazy and free-to-cheap kind, but didn't found too much. Really happy here with Glitch, which is amazing, but apart from this...any other ideas/faves ?

Thank you, Richard

linzatti · Post by **linzatti** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:58 pm

hmm... If you buy electronic instruments stand alone version from Native Instruments you get the FastFX, which is very useful for this.

PTV · Post by **PTV** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:09 pm

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... ght=glitch

gambitron · Post by **gambitron** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:30 pm

while so far all that's been discussed is "glitch" type devices, there are plenty of other ways to mess up audio for sound design.

some STANDARD effects you should have in your arsenal include: bitcrushing, vocoders, ring modulators, flangers, filters, pitch transposers and distortion (incl. fuzz & amp sims). all of these effects are great for trashing sounds. then you could even chain effects so that by the end, the original source is unrecognizeable. simple preamp overload clipping can turn acoustic drums into electronic sounding ones and a flanger can turn almost anything into metallic sounding for example.

a few interesting other effects i've found are:
grumblebum and yoink by tweakbench. i'm guessing that yoink is alot like scrubby by a different company

rezsynth is a really cool comb filter synth that's playable on keyboard. the demo i heard for it turned a drum beat in to an oddly beatiful synth riff. it's a specialized filter effect

a really handy piece of freeware would be SIR & convo boy (or something to that effect), which are convolution reverbs, but there are other impulses available for mangling too.

sxratch sounds interesting in theory, but i heard no demo for it.

there are tons of portals including right here inside KVR that list freeware by type. there's a huge thread right in here about freeware effects. you should really read that for more info. one other thing to do is visit the websites for effects and listen to the demos. there are alot of unique effects out there for sure.

Jbravo · Post by **Jbravo** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:50 pm

yeah don't really need a single plug to do it all, just use the basics creatively by stringing them all together and using some extreme settings. Use eq, distortion, sample rate reduction, flangers, delay, reverb - all sorts which you can pick up for free. You can create totally unique sounds which noone else will have

gambitron · Post by **gambitron** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:15 am

in checking out convolution IR demos, there are some pretty unique mangling sounds available. ALOT of the sounds were the same blurred sound (even the room and hall sounds) but there were a few examples that i heard that made a nice metallic flanging type sound but without the annoying in and out peaking that makes analogue flangers hard to use. it's hard to get the effect on exactly the sound you want it on as analogue units are cyclic.

a really cool filter effect demo i just heard is quadfrohmage by ohmforce. it's a filter effect, but it can do all sorts of crazy distortions i wouldn't have thought a filter could do. definately check the demos out.

blortblort · Post by **blortblort** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:00 am

Hi Richard!
try dover's plug's and Martin Brinkman's as well as Jack Dark's work and ugo's incredible Metallurgy...(be prepared for ugo's new ironhead morphing drumsynth

...it comes with a spectacular morph effect...tunguska!

....soooooon.... )
if you like dblue's Glitch, you'll surely like LiveSlice and Lucifer2...neither are free, but they're well worth the money

i know that odo is working on some really cool stuff...I kNOW I'm leaving out some really good stuff...surely runagate, bobsled or dubbyah will be able to fill in the blanks I'm leaving...
ahh, yes... runagate has a couple of peculiar new ones...very nice and quite unique!
this'd be a good start (as well as the other's previously mentioned, of course!) to your sample manglement toolbox!

PTV · Post by **PTV** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:09 am

And don't forget:
http://www.rekkerd.org/makunouchi-bento-plug-in-pack/

bobsled · Post by **bobsled** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:32 am

Richard Lichten wrote:...sample manipulation fx of the crazy and free-to-cheap kind...

...are often included in one's host. As mentioned in previous posts "eq, distortion, sample rate reduction, flangers, delay, reverb" combined with whatever sort of flexible routing your host allows can lead to very unusual results which can easily be saved as patches/scenes/tracks/whatever.

Check out what your host can do for you...

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:50 am

Doppelmangler

Ben [Camel Audio] · Post by **Ben [Camel Audio]** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:31 am

You could take a look at CamelSpace - its not free I'm afraid, but it is good for mangling stuff. Theres a link in my sig.

Thanks
Ben

Richard Lichten · Post by **Richard Lichten** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:58 am

Thanks for all the input...trying out now

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I have Dopplemangler... its great, but sort of specific;
Camelspace is great, but out of my budget ATM...

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:59 am

get any of these efx and get ableton Live, damn.. the racks feature, the device chaining and saving of efx. mmmmmm mmmmmmm goood.

blaster78 · Post by **blaster78** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:08 am

off hand a few that get regular use here (as well as the ones mentioned above) are

majkens pan oh! rama

jack darks fx jockey

darrell Tams DtBlkFx

many more of course, but those stick in my mind.

steve.

Spiggy · Post by **Spiggy** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:41 pm

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Sample Mangle fx faves ?