KVR Audio

meatwalker · Post by **meatwalker** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:46 am

hi not long ago i started a thread for the same question and i recently read one by someone else but i still am not satisfied

the only one that was recommended to me that worked and sort of did what i wanted was haydn's cclfo

the problem i have is, even though the lfo is at the same tempo as the host, they are not synced. this makes it sort of useless if u want to use very slow lfo waves and actually have it add something to the groove rather than screw with it.

also, 'depth' slider is very limiting.
there should be two sliders that control the ceiling and floor

isnt there something like reaktors automation lfo as a vst?

thanku

Music Engineer · Post by **Music Engineer** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:10 pm

lfo-effect? what do you mean? chorus, flanger, vibrato, tremolo ...? an lfo in itself is not an effect. however, in my lfo-based effects, you can trigger the lfos via midi-events because i also think, that it is quite pointless to have a syncronised lfo when it is essentialy free-running

PTV · Post by **PTV** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:29 pm

He meant LFO MIDI plugin that you can route to any plugin CC.
Dunk have an 8LFO plugin here:
http://dunk.smartelectronix.com/
And there is also this one from NicFit:
http://www.asseca.com/nicfit/cc_mod_ldev.html

Music Engineer · Post by **Music Engineer** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:46 pm

PTV wrote:He meant LFO MIDI plugin that you can route to any plugin CC.

ah o.k. - makes more sense now

scuzzphut · Post by **scuzzphut** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:29 pm

If you want to have that much control over the waveform, why not just draw it in your host's controller editor ?

meatwalker · Post by **meatwalker** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:51 pm

hey PTV

had already tried both those plugs in the past

the 'dunk' does not sync the lfo like i described in the original post, it just copies the tempo.

the nicfit one crashes my computer instantly whether i load it as an instrument or effect. i am using cubasesx... anyone know why it might be doing this, and can someone confirm whether it truely syncs to the tempo?

i find it really odd that there isnt a pluggin that does this properly. it seems like one of the most basic midi utilities there is and the code work is trivial...

scuzzphut: i dont want THAT much control of the waveform - its not about variety, its about precision and practicality. if u have ever used midi automation in cubase u will know why i think this is important. why do u think they put lfos in any synth when the parameters are automatable aswell?

THK · Post by **THK** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:30 pm

Did you try this one from Haydxn ?

CCLFOv2

meatwalker · Post by **meatwalker** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:37 pm

THK wrote:Did you try this one from Haydxn ?

CCLFOv2

yes i mentioned it in my original post

THK · Post by **THK** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:51 pm

oops

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:14 pm

logics built-in synths had good synced lfo:s which were most useful. not really longed for them until now, as i'd want to do some mr oizo-style synced-lfo-playing.

i'd do it in my hosts automation if i'd just want synced sweeps or pretty simple low frequency oscillation, but i want to play and record realtime the playing of the sync ratio like something like in mr oizo - analog worms attack etc ..

topaz · Post by **topaz** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:36 pm

energyXT envelope tool

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:07 pm

topaz wrote:energyXT envelope tool

yeah but you can't play that.

Debutante · Post by **Debutante** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:14 pm

There is a host syncable MIDI LFO from soma or NicFit. It's freakin' perfect, syncs perfect, plenty waveforms, phase selection, and can be linked to any parameter that accepts automation. No fancy stuff, just gets the job done tight.

http://asseca-pt.net/nicfit/cc_mod.html
http://asseca-pt.net/nicfit/cc_mod_ldev.html - this is the newer one I think

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:04 pm

Debutante wrote:There is a host syncable MIDI LFO from soma or NicFit. It's freakin' perfect, syncs perfect, plenty waveforms, phase selection, and can be linked to any parameter that accepts automation. No fancy stuff, just gets the job done tight.

http://asseca-pt.net/nicfit/cc_mod.html
http://asseca-pt.net/nicfit/cc_mod_ldev.html - this is the newer one I think

thanks, but it's mentioned already. i'm about to try it out, i'll inform you how it went.

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:09 pm

hm btw it just occurred to me that you have to play the song from the beginning every time you want to listen to the lfo fx to get it right, if you reset the lfo only in the beginning of the song.

wouldn't it be great if it had continuous tracking of the song position? :D

...

HM!

or then you could just use the plugin to write the automation data to your host. that way you could edit it manually also, if you like.

nice
can't wait to try THAT out =)

Host syncable midi lfo - PLEASE!