Tascam GVI - any plans to support it?
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
I just got the email from Tascam as a registered Giga 3 owner and pre-ordered GVI, the Gigastudio VST player. I have a huge Giga library and would LOVE to be able to use some of it on Receptor. Have there been any discussions with Tascam that you can admit to?
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- KVRian
- 571 posts since 14 Oct, 2004 from UK
I'd love to see that one work as well as GS was my main sampler until recently and I have many banks I'd rather use with GVI as opposed to converting to K2.
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 10 Oct, 2006
I have been a long-time user of GigaStudio also and I must say that I have only used the sampler as a sample player 99% of the time and have only gotten into sampling anything or tweaking anything a few times at most. My sample CD collection is mainly Akai (converted to Giga) but I also have a few Giga collections.
I'm wondering if Kontakt might be a better option for me to play my samples. From all the advertisements I see (Sonar features Kontakt a lot when showing film composers), it (Kontakt) seems to run as a VST plugin easier than GigaStudio which needs its own computer (which I have a dedicated computer for) to run well. With this release of GVI I'm not sure what to think as I was starting to consider hoping over to Knotakt 2 and giving up GS. One thing that has been a bit harder to get to flow seamlessly is using GS over FXT which I've been doing for the past year. It works good, but is just quite cumbersome sometimes. I would love to hear your comments on the advantages of using Kontakt over GS...or do both samplers have a place in a studio?
Thanks,
Nathan
I'm wondering if Kontakt might be a better option for me to play my samples. From all the advertisements I see (Sonar features Kontakt a lot when showing film composers), it (Kontakt) seems to run as a VST plugin easier than GigaStudio which needs its own computer (which I have a dedicated computer for) to run well. With this release of GVI I'm not sure what to think as I was starting to consider hoping over to Knotakt 2 and giving up GS. One thing that has been a bit harder to get to flow seamlessly is using GS over FXT which I've been doing for the past year. It works good, but is just quite cumbersome sometimes. I would love to hear your comments on the advantages of using Kontakt over GS...or do both samplers have a place in a studio?
Thanks,
Nathan
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 12 Apr, 2005
Hey Nathan,
Take it from someone who has tried what you're thinking about...Kontakt not 1/100th the program that Giga is. Kontakt's streaming just isn't up to par.
Now I know a lot of people will disagree, but I'm running massive giga libraries and Kontakt could not handle that stuff...or even the smaller stuff.
Take it from someone who has tried what you're thinking about...Kontakt not 1/100th the program that Giga is. Kontakt's streaming just isn't up to par.
Now I know a lot of people will disagree, but I'm running massive giga libraries and Kontakt could not handle that stuff...or even the smaller stuff.
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 10 Oct, 2006
Thanks for that answer. Would you say that GS is also a better program (as far as features that integrate with an app like Sonar or Live)?--and that GS is better for general use (not only streaming) than Kontakt?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
Nathan, in my opinion, as a long time Giga user and short-time Kontakt user, I prefer Giga, but I know it, so it's hard to be objective. I bought Kontakt in order to play the Garritan Strad, but to be frank (or maybe earnest) I never got into the Strad - not that I didn't want to, I think it's a great violin - I just don't have the time...
But giga has issues, too, for some users. I've always had good luck with it in general, but this is not Giga, this is GVI. All new code, the old kernel is gone entirely and re-written from the ground up. Mine arrives tommorow right after I leave for my gig, but I did get to see it at AES and it looks well thought-out. But they went with a Syncho dongle, which totally hoses it for me. I will have to rebuild half my studio: rebuild the video editor and remove hyperthreading so I can run Giga on it, then move giga from it's machine to the 'new' ex-video box, then trash the Giga box and rebuild it to run GVI and Korg Wavestation plus with Synchro dongles. Then try to install on the Receptor -oops, doesn't yet support Syncro (and may never be able to reliably, there have been issues with users trying to get Synchro and iLok to work together on the same machine...)
But giga has issues, too, for some users. I've always had good luck with it in general, but this is not Giga, this is GVI. All new code, the old kernel is gone entirely and re-written from the ground up. Mine arrives tommorow right after I leave for my gig, but I did get to see it at AES and it looks well thought-out. But they went with a Syncho dongle, which totally hoses it for me. I will have to rebuild half my studio: rebuild the video editor and remove hyperthreading so I can run Giga on it, then move giga from it's machine to the 'new' ex-video box, then trash the Giga box and rebuild it to run GVI and Korg Wavestation plus with Synchro dongles. Then try to install on the Receptor -oops, doesn't yet support Syncro (and may never be able to reliably, there have been issues with users trying to get Synchro and iLok to work together on the same machine...)
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 12 Apr, 2005
GS is far superior and is why all the film and tv composers I know use it for nearly all scoring. I have a Visiondaw and a Coyote R&D Two-Can running GS3. I use Midi Over Lan...ethernet midi and vnc to pull up the GS computers on my mac moniters (2 cinema displays.) This way I could (but never have had to) run 256 channels of midi.
The last show I scored used 55 channels of midi, orch score, big samples, about a 223gb load and never had a single glitch for 4 hours total score over a 3 month period.
I have no plans for GVI as I don't need a plugin version. But I bet it's great. I just wonder how many samples you could trigger along with a host program running (for exapmle) 16 tracks of audio. Might not be able to handle the load.
The last show I scored used 55 channels of midi, orch score, big samples, about a 223gb load and never had a single glitch for 4 hours total score over a 3 month period.
I have no plans for GVI as I don't need a plugin version. But I bet it's great. I just wonder how many samples you could trigger along with a host program running (for exapmle) 16 tracks of audio. Might not be able to handle the load.
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 10 Oct, 2006
I used GS on a dedicated 2nd DAW for a few years with MIDIoverLAN...there were no latency problems, etc. For the last year I've been using GS (still on a dedicated 2nd DAW) but with FXTeleport. I had to get a Gigabit network switch and I still don't think I have very fast network speeds between the 2 computers...so I have been experiencing a lot of dropouts due to the latency issues using FXTeleport (and specifically GigaVSTAdapter which is the version of FXTeleport that allows you to integrate GS into your host app--in my case Sonar/Live--as a part of the project) even thought it is running on a separate machine. It sounded so good and like the way to go, but I'm not sure if FXTeleport has been more of a hassle than a blessing trying to get all my soft synths (and GS) to run without dropouts. Even though I have been considering trying Kontakt out...or sometimes I end up using only soft synths for some songs and don't even fire up GS...I still like having the 2nd computer to run the extra synths with FXTeleport.
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 10 Oct, 2006
One last comment on the Kontakt vs GigaStudio thread is that I just read yesterday someone wrote that in their experience with the 2 samplers, they felt that Kontakt was more for electronic music while GS was better with the orchestral. Kontakt had better manipulation and filters for tweaking samples (at least in an easy way within a song in your host app), and GS was more serious for the larger orchestral libraries.