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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
I guess not.
I guess I'm just a f**king moron for thinking that there was a difference between multi-core desktop processors and server-grade multi-CPU platforms. A right f**king idiot...
G'head. Find me the threads from "years" ago where people were clamouring for multi-core support.
FFS, don't be pedantic about it. You know as well as I do that I'm referring to the current generation of affordable desktop processors with multiple cores.
Furthermore, the applications you list are all very mature apps, which HAVE been run by major studios with resources and certain demands. Tracktion started off for desktop users, primarily home hobbyists and project studio owners.
If you're going to try to compare things, try comparing apples to apples before you get all uppity about your vast knowledge of computers.
Greg
I guess I'm just a f**king moron for thinking that there was a difference between multi-core desktop processors and server-grade multi-CPU platforms. A right f**king idiot...
G'head. Find me the threads from "years" ago where people were clamouring for multi-core support.
FFS, don't be pedantic about it. You know as well as I do that I'm referring to the current generation of affordable desktop processors with multiple cores.
Furthermore, the applications you list are all very mature apps, which HAVE been run by major studios with resources and certain demands. Tracktion started off for desktop users, primarily home hobbyists and project studio owners.
If you're going to try to compare things, try comparing apples to apples before you get all uppity about your vast knowledge of computers.
Greg
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- KVRAF
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You don't have to call someone a moron to imply it. Your tone and intention was very clear.
PS, edited posts... you and I are refreshing and responding too quickly and I often edit. Usually it slips in before responses, but man... hot thread.
Note in particular where I think apples need to be compared to apples.
PS, edited posts... you and I are refreshing and responding too quickly and I often edit. Usually it slips in before responses, but man... hot thread.
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- KVRAF
- 3299 posts since 7 May, 2004 from Athens, Greece
Hey ttoz, are you sure you've seen pics of Greg? 
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Chuck E. Jesus Chuck E. Jesus https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=108246
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all i can say is wow...i've been reading this thread, there's a lot i have to come up to speed with, that's for sure....
one thing i don't quite get is the loops...i've never used premade loop libraies before, done a lot of loop editing manually...from the way i understand how the acid loops work is that they've been analized for the transient peaks and split up at those points, and the tempos can be adjusted by playing the actual edited bits faster/slower, the individual bits can be re-pitched, and grooves and re-quant timing can be done also...so is T3 simply going to support acid and other formats? in other words, will i be able to record my own drum/perc beats, synth arpegg/etc and do something similar, is that something T3 will analyze and then i'd hve those changeable loops, or would that require acid or similar in addition? the only thing i have now is Emu X2, but it would be nice to do it all in one program..sorry if this has been covered, but as i said, i'm not very knowlegable about this topic, i'm a bit confused.....note: i'm not really asking the Mackie spokesperson per se, i'm just having trouble reading between the lines of the info presented thus far....
thanks!
one thing i don't quite get is the loops...i've never used premade loop libraies before, done a lot of loop editing manually...from the way i understand how the acid loops work is that they've been analized for the transient peaks and split up at those points, and the tempos can be adjusted by playing the actual edited bits faster/slower, the individual bits can be re-pitched, and grooves and re-quant timing can be done also...so is T3 simply going to support acid and other formats? in other words, will i be able to record my own drum/perc beats, synth arpegg/etc and do something similar, is that something T3 will analyze and then i'd hve those changeable loops, or would that require acid or similar in addition? the only thing i have now is Emu X2, but it would be nice to do it all in one program..sorry if this has been covered, but as i said, i'm not very knowlegable about this topic, i'm a bit confused.....note: i'm not really asking the Mackie spokesperson per se, i'm just having trouble reading between the lines of the info presented thus far....
thanks!
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- KVRist
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I think the word you're looking for is analyzed. I'm not sure how you would analize a loop, but I have a feeling it wouldn't be pretty.from the way i understand how the acid loops work is that they've been analized for the transient peaks
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
Yes.Chuck E. Jesus wrote: one thing i don't quite get is the loops...i've never used premade loop libraies before, done a lot of loop editing manually...from the way i understand how the acid loops work is that they've been analized for the transient peaks
No. You're getting confused with recycle (and I'm not referring to REX files).and split up at those points
Acidized loops are just standard wav files (one per loop) that contain extra header data that describes the transients in the file.
Nope, that's recycle. Rex files are sometimes used in that way. Acidized files are generally pitch shifted, but with a little extra finesse that comes from knowing about tempo and transients ahead of time., and the tempos can be adjusted by playing the actual edited bits faster/slower, the individual bits can be re-pitched, and grooves and re-quant timing can be done also...
It seems like it, based on what Beno posted.in other words, will i be able to record my own drum/perc beats, synth arpegg/etc and do something similar, is that something T3 will analyze and then i'd hve those changeable loops
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Chuck E. Jesus Chuck E. Jesus https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=108246
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MasonAtom wrote:I think the word you're looking for is analyzed. I'm not sure how you would analize a loop, but I have a feeling it wouldn't be pretty.from the way i understand how the acid loops work is that they've been analized for the transient peaks
well, those college level "hooked on phonics" courses your folks paid for worked out great....
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thanks for the info...i actually thought recycle and acid worked the same way....that is very exciting news-i can see using that stuff!valley wrote:Yes.Chuck E. Jesus wrote: one thing i don't quite get is the loops...i've never used premade loop libraies before, done a lot of loop editing manually...from the way i understand how the acid loops work is that they've been analized for the transient peaks
No. You're getting confused with recycle (and I'm not referring to REX files).and split up at those points
Acidized loops are just standard wav files (one per loop) that contain extra header data that describes the transients in the file.
Nope, that's recycle. Rex files are sometimes used in that way. Acidized files are generally pitch shifted, but with a little extra finesse that comes from knowing about tempo and transients ahead of time., and the tempos can be adjusted by playing the actual edited bits faster/slower, the individual bits can be re-pitched, and grooves and re-quant timing can be done also...
It seems like it, based on what Beno posted.in other words, will i be able to record my own drum/perc beats, synth arpegg/etc and do something similar, is that something T3 will analyze and then i'd hve those changeable loops
sorry about my lack of knowledge, thanks again dude....
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- KVRAF
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- 1600 posts since 1 Apr, 2003 from Seattle, WA
Yes, you can record/create your own loops. T3 can analyze them or you can manually mark beats. You can then have them follow tempo/pitch changes and make them available for searching so you can use them in other Tracktion projects.Chuck E. Jesus wrote:so is T3 simply going to support acid and other formats? in other words, will i be able to record my own drum/perc beats, synth arpegg/etc and do something similar, is that something T3 will analyze and then i'd hve those changeable loops, or would that require acid or similar in addition?
Ben
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that sounds truely awesome...looking forward...you have another T3 upgrade customer here!Beno wrote:Yes, you can record/create your own loops. T3 can analyze them or you can manually mark beats. You can then have them follow tempo/pitch changes and make them available for searching so you can use them in other Tracktion projects.Chuck E. Jesus wrote:so is T3 simply going to support acid and other formats? in other words, will i be able to record my own drum/perc beats, synth arpegg/etc and do something similar, is that something T3 will analyze and then i'd hve those changeable loops, or would that require acid or similar in addition?
Ben
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- KVRAF
- 16154 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
I think it should be narrowed down a bit more. Tracktion users haven't been asking for multi core support for years. It's only since recently that they have, due to regular home computers finally coming with them.
By the way ttoz, for the abrupt cutoff of reverb and such on per clip FX, you can avoid it without rendering. Just select the clip and go to the properties and change the "end" time to a later time. It will extend the clip and the effects won't cut off.
Do note however, that if you move the clip, it will go back to the original size, as it's kind of "ghosting" the end. I'm not sure if you've tried it this way before, so I'm just offering it as an option.
Brent
By the way ttoz, for the abrupt cutoff of reverb and such on per clip FX, you can avoid it without rendering. Just select the clip and go to the properties and change the "end" time to a later time. It will extend the clip and the effects won't cut off.
Do note however, that if you move the clip, it will go back to the original size, as it's kind of "ghosting" the end. I'm not sure if you've tried it this way before, so I'm just offering it as an option.
Brent
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