Roger Nichols- buy two get one free

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what pisses me off isn't the prices

nor the interface

nor the names

not even really the copy protection system...

I can live with any of that stuff.

What gets me is the lies and utterly foul business behaviour from both parties involved.

EA sending a "valued customer" email to their customers a couple days before the Roger deal goes through, trying to grab more money out of us, offering us a (not so) 'special' price to add another one of their plugins to our collection. Knowing full well that these 'valued' customers were about to get screwed, and actually trying to screw them HARDER and FOR MORE MONEY with this 'valued customer' offer.

This is most certainly the shadiest move I've ever seen by an audio products vendor, absoutely disgusting, foul and inexcusable. What kind of greedy, shameless assholes are these people? :x makes me FURIOUS to have ever given them a dime.

Then Roger's marketing lies about how these algos have been developed by him over many years, have been a secret weapon in his arsenal, early incarnations used on Steely Dan albums etc. Who does this guy think he is kidding? wtf :nutter:

snakes and liars, that's the part i won't swallow.

The prices - whatever
The names - who cares
The GUI - who cares?
The CPS - whatever

The Snakes and Liars? :x not a bloody chance lads. You've proven what sort of (barely-)human beings you are, I'm surprised you lot can even look at yourselves in the mirror. Never another dime from myself or anyone I hold any influence over. Not a red bleeding cent. I don't care if you can offer me a Porsche for a dollar. I won't do business with people like you - representing the worst ethics, the higest dishonesty in business behaviour. Go rot.

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You got an email with "transfer prices" already?!
DUDE! I still know JACK about them, you must be special, like... seriously!

And? You get like 10bucks off for transfering or is it actually less?


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Roger is absolutely beautiful inside and out. Please adore him.

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S.HUSH wrote:Roger is absolutely beautiful inside and out. Please adore him.
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Teksonik wrote:Is that 2 bottles of Dongle cream for the price of one? :o
Yeah, you just rub into your dong....le....for anywhere from 2 to 30 minutes. :D



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S.HUSH wrote:Roger is absolutely beautiful inside and out. Please adore him.
:lol:

Trust me, I've seen the outside of Roger...there's nothing beautiful about that.

:lol:

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grymmjack wrote::hihi: I hope Roger rots away in his fatty aged fattness surrounded by his archaic trophies and choking on the dust of his dead skin cells.
:-o :-o :-o
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TotcProductions wrote:
S.HUSH wrote:Roger is absolutely beautiful inside and out. Please adore him.
:lol:

Trust me, I've seen the outside of Roger...there's nothing beautiful about that.

:lol:
It's only when he wears that skirt that he looks beautiful outside IMO. :wink:

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S.HUSH wrote:
TotcProductions wrote:
S.HUSH wrote:Roger is absolutely beautiful inside and out. Please adore him.
:lol:

Trust me, I've seen the outside of Roger...there's nothing beautiful about that.

:lol:
It's only when he wears that skirt that he looks beautiful outside IMO. :wink:
You mean like this?
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Per the Elemental Audio discussion I can add this...
I'm out on the road doing a contract and just grabbed a laptop before I left home. I was pleased to find all of my licensed Elemental Audio plugins still available to me for downloading from the Elemental Site - I don't know how long that's going to last but it's good to see that the Elemental Audio/RN deal provides for existing customer support - otherwise I'm sure I'd have a pretty wicked opinion too! :wink:

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leonard wrote:I was about days away frow buying a bundle from Elemental Audio, when they got rogerized. No way I'm going to buy a dongled plug.
Actually I wouldn't want any of them if they were free of charge. I have passed on lots of otherwise great stuff because of the dongle crap. I have to live with my Cubase dongle but that's pretty much it, no more christmas tree on my daw.
I also think it's a shame that the Roger guy never got grandchildren to spend time with, see what it did to him!
Me too...so, the way I see it...the plug-ins are really good. RN liked them, wanted to make some money from them, contacted EA about distributing them under his name and EA bought it and probably got a goodly sum for doing so.

Now, RN tacks on his cut for marketing and promoting and EA gets to do their stuff without a bunch of "are we making any money" hassles.

Win, win for EA and RN. The whole iLok thing is RN's attachment to the Digidesign model. Lose, lose, win for us because:

Lose - the price goes up.
Lose - I can't own a plug with *-izer as the name. Just too lame.
Win - EA is still in business and doing their thing...
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Look, its a fact that any company is out to make money. They're all a bunch of wankers like that.

Which is why its always preferable to deal with someone like Jorgen Aase. He has good product, and knows his shit. But he is also a human, despite his signature.

When a team of people get together to release something, the purity of the aim is often lost to corporate greed.
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