What did Prodigy use to make The Fat of The Land?
- KVRian
- 1469 posts since 18 Sep, 2004 from Suffolk, UK
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- KVRAF
- 7315 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
You've totally missed the point though. The reason that Liam used Reason is not because of the sounds. It was because it got him writing again, it injected itself into his creative vein and he got out of his slump.aallvor wrote:Maybe I went a bit overboard thereAmberience wrote:Er... no... that's a straight up lie if I ever read one.aallvor wrote:Every single sound was re-recorded with analog synths![]()
But - If you read this sos article, there's really not much left of Reason's sounds in the end product
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Oct04/a ... rodigy.htm
Cheers
The fact he used Reason isn't exciting because "wow! This sounds like Reason gone mad!!" its because Reason enabled Liam to get out of his creative ditch.
The fact he re-recorded most of the sounds isn't even a slur against Reason, and is hardly worth pointing out.
Unless you like music for its technical aspects rather than its emotive aspects.
Either way, the album was shit.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1445 posts since 8 Feb, 2006
I think that it wasn't shit, rather not so good as the others maybe. I would be glad to be author of his new album. As the sound of reason he did say on some article that he thinks that reason's sound ain't so good so he will not use it for next album he is writing right now. I'm reasoner myself and i know that reason sounds often too "glassy" As tool that is the most innovative i find that reason is that to me and to many others as well.
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- KVRAF
- 7936 posts since 18 Feb, 2003 from out there somewhere
in your opinion. in mine, it's actually a very good album, just maybe not as good as the others...Amberience wrote:Either way, the album was shit.
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- KVRAF
- 7315 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
That it was my opinion was implicit. No need to point it out.CypherOne wrote:in your opinion. in mine, it's actually a very good album, just maybe not as good as the others...Amberience wrote:Either way, the album was shit.
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- KVRAF
- 7315 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
I read that he WROTE most of it in Reason, but used his MS20 for alot of the recording. Apparently he used this wacky distortion rack unit, but I forget the name.Amberience wrote:Er... no... that's a straight up lie if I ever read one.aallvor wrote:Every single sound was re-recorded with analog synths
Mixed on a Mackie, but with some high end compressors and stuff.
All according to article I read.
TB
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- KVRian
- 553 posts since 24 Feb, 2005 from Prana
In an old (I'm 95 % sure it was a pre-Fat of the Land) CM or FM is an interview in which they discuss his gear & methods and in it he says Korg Prophecy is a piece of sh*t which he rarely or never uses.Lovesign wrote:Liam also used the Korg Prophecy a heck of alot on Fat Of The Land. It's all over it.
“Somebody said to me, ‘But the Beatles were antimaterialistic.’ That’s a huge myth. John and I literally used to sit down and say, ‘Now, let’s write a swimming pool.’ ”
- KVRist
- 415 posts since 13 Sep, 2006 from above ground
Here you go:
Audio Valve EQ
Dynatech HD
JVC AK-22 amplifier
Mackie 1604 mixer
Mackie 32 track mixing desk
Sony DTC1000 DAT
Syquest EZ135 hard disk
Tascam DA20 TL
Tascam 32 track mixer
TEAC V3000 cassette deck
Technics SL1200 turntable
TOA 280 ME monitor speakers
TLA stereo valve EQ
Gemini MX2200 DJ mixer
Philips CD 624
Alesis Compressor/Gate
Alesis Quadraverb effects unit
Art multiverb alpha 2
Aphex type C aural exciter
Behringer ultrafex enhancer
BBE Sonic maximiser 322
DBXL60A compressors
Drawmer LX20 compressor x3
Drawmer DL221 gate
Dynacord Leslie effects cabinet
JoeMeek Compressor
Yamaha SPX 1000 FX unit
Kenton MIDI Box
Moog Prodigy synth
Novation bass station
Sequential circuits pro one synth
Macintosh 7100 with Cubase sequencing software
Propellerheads Reason
It's on their site.
Audio Valve EQ
Dynatech HD
JVC AK-22 amplifier
Mackie 1604 mixer
Mackie 32 track mixing desk
Sony DTC1000 DAT
Syquest EZ135 hard disk
Tascam DA20 TL
Tascam 32 track mixer
TEAC V3000 cassette deck
Technics SL1200 turntable
TOA 280 ME monitor speakers
TLA stereo valve EQ
Gemini MX2200 DJ mixer
Philips CD 624
Alesis Compressor/Gate
Alesis Quadraverb effects unit
Art multiverb alpha 2
Aphex type C aural exciter
Behringer ultrafex enhancer
BBE Sonic maximiser 322
DBXL60A compressors
Drawmer LX20 compressor x3
Drawmer DL221 gate
Dynacord Leslie effects cabinet
JoeMeek Compressor
Yamaha SPX 1000 FX unit
Kenton MIDI Box
Moog Prodigy synth
Novation bass station
Sequential circuits pro one synth
Macintosh 7100 with Cubase sequencing software
Propellerheads Reason
It's on their site.
- KVRist
- 415 posts since 13 Sep, 2006 from above ground
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- KVRist
- 53 posts since 29 Mar, 2004
Some quotes from Howlett regarding Reason
"Reason is purely for sequencing. It has its uses but moving to Pro Tools allowed us to up a gear and get the tracks sounding pretty good."
He used Reason as a sketchpad only. He used it the way an architect would use a piece of paper to design a house - fleshing out ideas and looking for inspiration, but at some point those ideas are eventually moved into another program where the real work is done."I'm not f**king promoting them (Proppellerheads) anymore!
They haven't done anything wrong, I'm just fed up with…you know, I still use it, but I also use Logic, Protools, I use Ableton, I use whatever is there really. Reason is good for getting shit happening quickly, but it doesn't sound like Logic or Protools, they sound better.
So either way, it ends up on Protools anyway."
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- KVRAF
- 7315 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
Without the sketchpad though, his ideas wouldn't of come to fruition - I reckon anyway.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1445 posts since 8 Feb, 2006
I also find reason good to put ideas down and i also use it almost for everything and getting better results with it as time goes on. After all all you need is good sounds and skills. I think also that props won't leave it there and next upgrade will put final nail to all that soundquality shit.
