Cue Tom Petty singing 'the way-ay-ting is the hardest part'.Squids wrote:Oh it definitely doesn't suck!The accuracy of how close it sounds to the real thing is quite amazing actually. Think about it. For Ampeg to sign off on it with their name? They are the leader in bass amps and they are very proud of it as is IK.
Anyway, good news is that I just heard that there's an update for Ampeg SVX comning that makes it dongless as well (and UB). So there you go! Should be available any day. Enjoy!
Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!
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- KVRist
- 177 posts since 25 Dec, 2005 from Indy
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- KVRAF
- 7316 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
Ampeg are ONE of the leaders in bass amps. There are plenty of others that could be called leaders.
My Youtube Channel - Wires Dream Disasters
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- KVRian
- 711 posts since 8 Sep, 2005
I'm not sure where you got the bashing from, however, I do unserstand your (business) motivation for the response. However, we're exchanging opinions here. I have one, as I have bought some of your company's products. I'm sure some people love your products and use them all the time. Unfortunately, that doesn't include everyone. You should be happy that you made money off of me, from a business perspective. At least I thought enough of your demos/hype to take the plunge. However, if I am of the opinion that these tools don't currently fit my needs, then so be it. Perhaps, I'll pull them out later on, but not now.Squids wrote:Oh you're just an IK basher/NI lover!G&L_player wrote:
I happen to see that you are working along the same path- buy Amplitude, but use something else. What a curiosity? FYI: I did the same thing.In fact, I did the same thing with Sampletank...another bench warmer.
BTW, sorry to hear that V2 has not been all that it was hyped. It's definitely a pain in the wallet to go through this, as most of us are well aware.![]()
Personally, I don't appreciate business people putting their one-sided spins on things. Their motivations are not genuine, simply put.
Also, I am not a materialist and do NOT subscribe to public opinion(s)...just another way for the materialist to weigh and measure. FYI: millions of users can be wrong!
- KVRAF
- 4182 posts since 10 Oct, 2002 from Nashville, TN USA
Honestly, I think he was kidding you. But I totally respect the maverick attitude. People should be able to apply various tools at various times to various needs without feeling like they are 'missing out'.G&L_player wrote:I'm not sure where you got the bashing from, however, I do unserstand your (business) motivation for the response. However, we're exchanging opinions here. I have one, as I have bought some of your company's products. I'm sure some people love your products and use them all the time. Unfortunately, that doesn't include everyone. You should be happy that you made money off of me, from a business perspective. At least I thought enough of your demos/hype to take the plunge. However, if I am of the opinion that these tools don't currently fit my needs, then so be it. Perhaps, I'll pull them out later on, but not now.Squids wrote:Oh you're just an IK basher/NI lover!G&L_player wrote:
I happen to see that you are working along the same path- buy Amplitude, but use something else. What a curiosity? FYI: I did the same thing.In fact, I did the same thing with Sampletank...another bench warmer.
BTW, sorry to hear that V2 has not been all that it was hyped. It's definitely a pain in the wallet to go through this, as most of us are well aware.![]()
Personally, I don't appreciate business people putting their one-sided spins on things. Their motivations are not genuine, simply put.
Also, I am not a materialist and do NOT subscribe to public opinion(s)...just another way for the materialist to weigh and measure. FYI: millions of users can be wrong!
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- KVRian
- 711 posts since 8 Sep, 2005
I registered 30 hours before the cut-off. So, I wrote to IK. I let them know that I am a Berklee student, and they assured me that I would be taken care of. However, nobody had a clue to when the product would actually be released at that time.beergeek wrote:Hey Squids...it was a long time ago but I seem to recall that everyone who qualified automagically got it as a d/l in their user area on IK's site. Am I remembering it wrong? It was only if you wanted it shipped with the dongle that you needed to ask.Squids wrote:If anyone qualified for a free upgrade and didn't take advantage of it then... well, that's their mistake. Most people qualify for the paid upgrade anyway which is still a phenominal deal.G&L_player wrote:IK used to post that all registered users from Sept 1 2005 on would get free upgrades to V2. However, this blurb appears to have been wiped away. I didn't get mine. Instead I got a note from IK stating how much the upgrade cost. Like they say, "Empty phrases are a step from a lie."
Do you think that the reason why they could not make their deliverables was because they were too busy fragmenting their product base (i.e. Amplitude 1 _> Bass version, Guitar version) to increase profits? Methinks.
GR2 is the better bang for the buck IMHO. Does IK even have their pedal out, or are they trying to come up with different versions (i.e. bass/guitar?) LoL
G&L_player..have you checked your user area? You might just have 2 AT2 downloads there and the latest one doesn't need the dongle...just a thought.
Having gone through a tramatic RSI experience that I am stil recovering from, I have been offline for a bit. When I contacted IK, they basically took it off the table and told me how much the update cost. Ergo, I was, in fact, told that I would get updated. FYI: I'm just trying to pick up the pieces with these updates, as I kinda left my studio UNDATED for a bit, not mention everything else.
So, I picked up GR2 with my student discount, and got everything for almost the price of the update, instead.
FYI: these aren't bashes, so stop spinning this. This is, in fact, what happened. If anyone doesn't like it- too bad. The TRUTH is bitter. I do, however, appreciate those who have asked regular questions, etc... (I just have no use for the business processes and all the spinning- not interested.)
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- KVRian
- 711 posts since 8 Sep, 2005
Thanks, dudey. I appreciate your balanced remarks. I really don't know the guy at all, so I'm not in a position to make that call.Shane Sanders wrote:Honestly, I think he was kidding you. But I totally respect the maverick attitude. People should be able to apply various tools at various times to various needs without feeling like they are 'missing out'.G&L_player wrote:I'm not sure where you got the bashing from, however, I do unserstand your (business) motivation for the response. However, we're exchanging opinions here. I have one, as I have bought some of your company's products. I'm sure some people love your products and use them all the time. Unfortunately, that doesn't include everyone. You should be happy that you made money off of me, from a business perspective. At least I thought enough of your demos/hype to take the plunge. However, if I am of the opinion that these tools don't currently fit my needs, then so be it. Perhaps, I'll pull them out later on, but not now.Squids wrote:Oh you're just an IK basher/NI lover!G&L_player wrote:
I happen to see that you are working along the same path- buy Amplitude, but use something else. What a curiosity? FYI: I did the same thing.In fact, I did the same thing with Sampletank...another bench warmer.
BTW, sorry to hear that V2 has not been all that it was hyped. It's definitely a pain in the wallet to go through this, as most of us are well aware.![]()
Personally, I don't appreciate business people putting their one-sided spins on things. Their motivations are not genuine, simply put.
Also, I am not a materialist and do NOT subscribe to public opinion(s)...just another way for the materialist to weigh and measure. FYI: millions of users can be wrong!
"We can be tempted and seduced by the most beautiful things if we pusue them one-sidely, and this one sidedness, if it takes hold, can also turn every good endeavor and striving into fanaticism."
This is one reason why it's important to share opinions and not follow public opinion(s). One-sidedness is essentially evil (i.e. un-balanced).
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- KVRian
- 711 posts since 8 Sep, 2005
Wow! Now, that's a hard-line business approach. Am I supposed to appreciate it? What? It's my $%^# fault because I got ill last year in ther middle of the "when the FU will Amplitude 2 ever be released"?! I'll tell you what- I'll meet your hard-line business approach with a hard-line response- that's YOUR mistake.Squids wrote:If anyone qualified for a free upgrade and didn't take advantage of it then... well, that's their mistake.
FYI: this statement was NOT appreciated!
Of course, it is...Squids wrote: The Stomp IO isn't out yet but it isn't just a "pedal". It controls every aspect of the complete software from performance to editing. Nothing else does that so it is quite a lot of work to be the first one that does. It is still in development.
OK, NOW, I'm bashing!
And, what do you know about business? Got any degrees? Have you worked for any other company besides IK in a greater capacity than posting on boards?Squids wrote: All companies create products to increase their profits. That's business.
FYI: the rule in business is to take more than you give, else you're out. As businesses practice this "art" they get quite good at it, as well. Now, the human being has been reduced to a commodity...shame and a sin.
Sorry you don't like the terminology. Ever gone to business school?Squids wrote: But having AmpliTube 2 for guitar and Ampeg SVX for bass makes total sense and is hardly what I would call fragmented....
Squids wrote: not that it would matter if it was.
YOO-HOO! It certainly would if it keeps company from making their deliverables. Check the title of this thread- a laughing stock about the why/where is the product. Do you see another one this big mocking the delivery of another product?
They do if it affects their bottom line. In addition, they certainly will if most of the selections are redundant. Come to think of it, the Bass Amp surely borrowed many of the components (i.e. source code) from Aplitude 1.Squids wrote: Does any amp company get criticized for having a lot of different amps? What amp company doesn't? From that perspective the software companies are MAJORLY consolidated by putting so many different gear emultions into single products. That doesn't mean it all has to be in one product though at one price point.
Not necessarily...Squids wrote: Some people might want JUST bass amps, some people might want just a few amps for less money... hence the existence of the various "powered by AmpliTube" products.
Nice spin though.
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- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
you guys are sooo stupid. 302 pages about a blatant lie!
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 3 Jul, 2005 from The Realm of Possibilities
Well, Squids probably won't say anything but I will.
First, Squids is Dave Kerzner: check this link http://www.sonicreality.com/company.php
So, he doesn't work FOR IK he works WITH IK. He also works with NI and Propellerheads and a number of others.
He is also a principal in http://esoundz.com.
So you might want to re-think the "what do you know about business" remarks.
First, Squids is Dave Kerzner: check this link http://www.sonicreality.com/company.php
So, he doesn't work FOR IK he works WITH IK. He also works with NI and Propellerheads and a number of others.
He is also a principal in http://esoundz.com.
So you might want to re-think the "what do you know about business" remarks.
Play what you feel and feel what you play.
- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
like is said, a blatant lie! it hasn't been released this month and Squids knew it all along!
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- KVRian
- 711 posts since 8 Sep, 2005
Beer-man, I appreciate the mediating- cool.beergeek wrote:Well, Squids probably won't say anything but I will.
First, Squids is Dave Kerzner: check this link http://www.sonicreality.com/company.php
However, I don't associate and understanding of business priciples with the presence of a web site. In addition, I'm not interested in the WHO, but the WHAT (is said). So, it's really not personal- it's just a matter of principle.
I have. FYI: I know lots of people who have web sites, etc... Not being a materialist, I don't place significance on the outward appearance. SO, I'm not impressed.beergeek wrote: So, he doesn't work FOR IK he works WITH IK. He also works with NI and Propellerheads and a number of others.
He is also a principal in http://esoundz.com.
So you might want to re-think the "what do you know about business" remarks.
FYI: his remarks about missing the upgrade really set me off- his bad. There's a chance that I could become permanently disabled and not be able to play again. I'm trying to get my studio in shape to find other outlets. In picking up the pieces I hit that IK snag.
However, his one-sided opinions are, in fact, business-motivated, and don't carry any weight with me, simply put.
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Yeah I was kidding about the bashing (hence theShane Sanders wrote:Honestly, I think he was kidding you. But I totally respect the maverick attitude. People should be able to apply various tools at various times to various needs without feeling like they are 'missing out'.G&L_player wrote:I'm not sure where you got the bashing from, however, I do unserstand your (business) motivation for the response. However, we're exchanging opinions here. I have one, as I have bought some of your company's products. I'm sure some people love your products and use them all the time. Unfortunately, that doesn't include everyone. You should be happy that you made money off of me, from a business perspective. At least I thought enough of your demos/hype to take the plunge. However, if I am of the opinion that these tools don't currently fit my needs, then so be it. Perhaps, I'll pull them out later on, but not now.Squids wrote:Oh you're just an IK basher/NI lover!G&L_player wrote:
I happen to see that you are working along the same path- buy Amplitude, but use something else. What a curiosity? FYI: I did the same thing.In fact, I did the same thing with Sampletank...another bench warmer.
BTW, sorry to hear that V2 has not been all that it was hyped. It's definitely a pain in the wallet to go through this, as most of us are well aware.![]()
Personally, I don't appreciate business people putting their one-sided spins on things. Their motivations are not genuine, simply put.
Also, I am not a materialist and do NOT subscribe to public opinion(s)...just another way for the materialist to weigh and measure. FYI: millions of users can be wrong!
After being on KVR for 6 years most people know that my posts have commercial undertons... goes with the territory of being both a developer and an on line retailer. That said, most people know that I am genuine and have a sense of humor. So there you go. I hope that you do pull it out and find use out of the products you bought. I find a use for them all the time and love it as many others do to. However each person and their music is different so there's no way to apply that as truth to anyone. It's subjective in the end.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
dude, you way over reacted...I think you may have been a tad jaded when reading squids first response...I'm a tough customer and I wish more people would be as professional as heG&L_player wrote:Beer-man, I appreciate the mediating- cool.beergeek wrote:Well, Squids probably won't say anything but I will.
First, Squids is Dave Kerzner: check this link http://www.sonicreality.com/company.php![]()
However, I don't associate and understanding of business priciples with the presence of a web site. In addition, I'm not interested in the WHO, but the WHAT (is said). So, it's really not personal- it's just a matter of principle.
I have. FYI: I know lots of people who have web sites, etc... Not being a materialist, I don't place significance on the outward appearance. SO, I'm not impressed.beergeek wrote: So, he doesn't work FOR IK he works WITH IK. He also works with NI and Propellerheads and a number of others.
He is also a principal in http://esoundz.com.
So you might want to re-think the "what do you know about business" remarks.
FYI: his remarks about missing the upgrade really set me off- his bad. There's a chance that I could become permanently disabled and not be able to play again. I'm trying to get my studio in shape to find other outlets. In picking up the pieces I hit that IK snag.
However, his one-sided opinions are, in fact, business-motivated, and don't carry any weight with me, simply put.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRian
- 711 posts since 8 Sep, 2005
Squids wrote:Yeah I was kidding about the bashing (hence theShane Sanders wrote:Honestly, I think he was kidding you. But I totally respect the maverick attitude. People should be able to apply various tools at various times to various needs without feeling like they are 'missing out'.G&L_player wrote:I'm not sure where you got the bashing from, however, I do unserstand your (business) motivation for the response. However, we're exchanging opinions here. I have one, as I have bought some of your company's products. I'm sure some people love your products and use them all the time. Unfortunately, that doesn't include everyone. You should be happy that you made money off of me, from a business perspective. At least I thought enough of your demos/hype to take the plunge. However, if I am of the opinion that these tools don't currently fit my needs, then so be it. Perhaps, I'll pull them out later on, but not now.Squids wrote:Oh you're just an IK basher/NI lover!G&L_player wrote:
I happen to see that you are working along the same path- buy Amplitude, but use something else. What a curiosity? FYI: I did the same thing.In fact, I did the same thing with Sampletank...another bench warmer.
BTW, sorry to hear that V2 has not been all that it was hyped. It's definitely a pain in the wallet to go through this, as most of us are well aware.![]()
Personally, I don't appreciate business people putting their one-sided spins on things. Their motivations are not genuine, simply put.
Also, I am not a materialist and do NOT subscribe to public opinion(s)...just another way for the materialist to weigh and measure. FYI: millions of users can be wrong!). Of course each person is entitled to their own opinion and I said in my post that of course no product is for everyone to like. AmpliTube isn't a product that I made. But if you bought Sonik Synth or Miroslav Philharmonik then you've bought my personal creations and I HOPE that everyone who buys a product that I made gets enough use out of them to justify the purchase. We try hard to give a lot of value for the money.
After being on KVR for 6 years most people know that my posts have commercial undertons... goes with the territory of being both a developer and an on line retailer. That said, most people know that I am genuine and have a sense of humor. So there you go. I hope that you do pull it out and find use out of the products you bought. I find a use for them all the time and love it as many others do to. However each person and their music is different so there's no way to apply that as truth to anyone. It's subjective in the end.
Please see my last post, and you'll certainly understand what set me off.
Yup, saw your page. Good for you. I might very well be able to fill one up, as well. FYI: my family was one of the largest Gibson dealers in the USA at one time...not to mention a lot of other gear. My grandfather's best friend was Gene Krupa, so I used to hang with the cats when I was young.
Can we agree that ALL opinions are important and contribute towards a balanced result. If so, it should be understood that we can be happy without having to have others agree, yeah?
Nuff said. Let's put this little spat away, for both our sakes. In addition, I'll disregard any posts that were made before I send this along.
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- KVRian
- 711 posts since 8 Sep, 2005
You might be right. However, I believe the post that I just made should help clear this up.Hink wrote:dude, you way over reacted...I think you may have been a tad jaded when reading squids first response...I'm a tough customer and I wish more people would be as professional as heG&L_player wrote:Beer-man, I appreciate the mediating- cool.beergeek wrote:Well, Squids probably won't say anything but I will.
First, Squids is Dave Kerzner: check this link http://www.sonicreality.com/company.php![]()
However, I don't associate and understanding of business priciples with the presence of a web site. In addition, I'm not interested in the WHO, but the WHAT (is said). So, it's really not personal- it's just a matter of principle.
I have. FYI: I know lots of people who have web sites, etc... Not being a materialist, I don't place significance on the outward appearance. SO, I'm not impressed.beergeek wrote: So, he doesn't work FOR IK he works WITH IK. He also works with NI and Propellerheads and a number of others.
He is also a principal in http://esoundz.com.
So you might want to re-think the "what do you know about business" remarks.
FYI: his remarks about missing the upgrade really set me off- his bad. There's a chance that I could become permanently disabled and not be able to play again. I'm trying to get my studio in shape to find other outlets. In picking up the pieces I hit that IK snag.
However, his one-sided opinions are, in fact, business-motivated, and don't carry any weight with me, simply put.btw, he still hasn't sold me yet...but....
Yes, you are a tough customer. However, I can appreciate that. What's wrong with challenging everything and holding fast to that which is good?
BTW, how's your music coming? The last we spoke (last year), you were moving right along. Hopefully, I can get through my $%^ injuries and get into the sharing thing that you guys have going on...maybe collaborate? FYI: I'm currently into Voice Recognition technology to save my hands...we'll see.

