Future Zebra suggestions

[pdxindy]

oh... using arpmod (or a square lfo, mseg) to control delay mix gives clicks... can that be adjusted so it is smooth and does not click?

[Urs]

oh... using arpmod (or a square lfo, mseg) to control delay mix gives clicks... can that be adjusted so it is smooth and does not click?

Hardly. It's being smoothed already, but too fast volume modulations always click, no matter what.

[pdxindy]

thanks for the reply... figured that might be the case, but thought I would ask...

edit: I tried using an MSEG with tiny curved slopes in an otherwise square wave and it modulates Delay Mix without clicks. Would it be possible to make arpmod behave that way? Maybe arpmod could have options like lfo user... steps and lines and either steps could be slightly rounded or have a 3rd option s-steps for smooth steps

Here is the 's-step' MSEG preset for anyone who is interested.

http://draigathar.org/zebra/smooth-square3-11.h2p

[steff3]

my wishlist:
- more MSEGs
- multiple outs / surround (octophonic?) would be even better
- inputs
- more LFOs

best

[meto]

hi urs,

my personal wishlist:
- a "compare" button - for comparing edited presets with the original ones (please!!)
- the possibility to switch the fx-section off globaly. when I step through the presets it is driving me mad to switch off the fx on every single preset again and again and again and... so with a "global fx off" option presets would load with all fx switched off
- a saturation algo for the shapers
- dunno if this is possible: a feedback module with a delay line, which can send audio up the grid... a la dsi evolver. see here: http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/dow ... l_flow.pdf

I've read you moved, urs... do you live still in prenzl-land?

cheers
meto

[Urs]

I've read you moved, urs... do you live still in prenzl-land?

No, grrrl and me are minimizing the age level in Charlottenburg now...

Regarding feedback... I had this in Zebra 1, but no-one ever used it. If you have useful suggestions for feedback setups, I can probably add these to the comb modules.

Global FX off... might be doable, indeed...

Edit/Compare... I have something in mind here, but still not started on this...

Urs

[spritex]

No, grrrl and me are minimizing the age level in Charlottenburg now...

Ah I see, you moved into the Schloss now.

Hmm, I noticed that the Egyptian museum has moved away from around there. I visited both of those a few years ago.

[pdxindy]

hi urs,

my personal wishlist:
- a "compare" button - for comparing edited presets with the original ones (please!!)
- the possibility to switch the fx-section off globaly. when I step through the presets it is driving me mad to switch off the fx on every single preset again and again and again and... so with a "global fx off" option presets would load with all fx switched off
- a saturation algo for the shapers
- dunno if this is possible: a feedback module with a delay line, which can send audio up the grid... a la dsi evolver. see here: http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/dow ... l_flow.pdf

I've read you moved, urs... do you live still in prenzl-land?

cheers
meto

a compare button would be convenient... a saturation algo for the shapers a big yes! With extra controls

A feedback module sounds interesting. I've thought it could be interesting to have a delay effect module up in the top with the oscs.

[pdxindy]

Would be useful to have a way to see what a modulator is controlling. So for example, I could option click on arpmod and it would list what arpmod is controlling.

[meto]

I've read you moved, urs... do you live still in prenzl-land?

No, grrrl and me are minimizing the age level in Charlottenburg now...

charlottenburg, that's interesting... in the 11 years I live here I remember one friend who lived in charlottenburg.
different world, eh?

the idea for the feedback was inspired by the evolver - to get that guitarish-feedback-drone-sound... (I wanted to create some presets inspired by hardware synth as starting points for further preset creation, e.g. 3OSC -> LP filter.... as moog preset... etc)


greets from the east!

[tylenol]

Here's something that might be really useful, though a pain to add: how about an editable palette of waveforms that could be dragged into the oscillators (and to the palette)? I know that oscillator groups can be saved, but (unless I've missed something) it's not so easy just to share, say, one waveform between patches.

[Jarlath]

It would also be great if you could load samples as waveforms. Re-synthesis maybe? Or chop it to a wavetable that has been extended to 128 waves.
More wavetable tools?

Tell me I'm crazy...

[blurk]

OSC support for all controls or at least for the xy pads and arp/seq. Imagine using z2 with the xys and stepsequencer on a multitouch lemur.

Hmmm... I think I've seen Zebra being controlled by Lemur... but don't ask me how...

Possibly via a host that supports OSC. I'm thinking Bidule here. It can receive OSC messages, and certainly should have the capability to map them into something (CCs perhaps?, or more direct automation) that Zebra2 can understand.

But I'd add a vote for a compare feature. I'd forgotten all about those, but I have an old TG55 that had that, and it was quite useful when tweaking.

[Urs]

But I'd add a vote for a compare feature. I'd forgotten all about those, but I have an old TG55 that had that, and it was quite useful when tweaking.

Yeah, I remember that very well. My ancient Wavestation has it. However, I think it's gotta be a bit more, uhm, convincing. So, before I make up my mind here, there has to be a proper concept. I'm thinking as far as the "construction history" in porgrams like Maya (3D animation tool, the most easiest to use ever), or in a bit more simple way the layer-like "history" in Photoshop. Thing is, there are hundreds of pros and cons for each level of Undo-ness or Compare-ness, but it has to be

- easy to handle
- nice in terms of cpu/memory usage
- simply the best thing ever done in that respect
- overwhelming enough to keep people from requesting more like it

The favourite of last time thinking about it was much like the [M] and [M+] buttons of a pocket calculator, where you can save snapshots of what you've just done. Combine that with a drop down for so-and-so-many steps back or forth. Needless to say, including preset switches.

However, there is already a functionality for unlimited undo for some stuff that has not been unleashed to user space (it's for my gui editing stuff, but it's adaptable for anything). So I'm struggling on making my mind up whether to build something upon that *existing* mechanism - or to start from scratch and make it, along with edit/comparable preset states, a dedicated new project for a month or two.

We'll see...

Urs

[twolegstoneworks]

The favourite of last time thinking about it was much like the [M] and [M+] buttons of a pocket calculator, where you can save snapshots of what you've just done. Combine that with a drop down for so-and-so-many steps back or forth. Needless to say, including preset switches.

Hi Urs

Sounds like a very good solution, however, one should not underestimate the power of the "save"-button. Save a lot during design and delete the stuff you dont want afterwards. I'd much rather prefer additional filter-models.

Cheers,
- Torben.