[ugo] Arachnid

[Ildon]

btw, what would equate to chump change in that business? i dont mean to ask for specific figures, just a ballpark. i dont think i have the time or patience to do much soundtracking for free but i understand that i couldnt expect to ask for a lot either from a small dev and with my small (and at this point, gameless) portfolio.

It really depends. There's no straight answer to that question. When I scored a smalltime MMORPG back in May-June, I got paid 300 dollars for roughly 65 minutes worth of music, some of which ended up not being used. I recently got paid around 200 bucks for about 46 minutes worth of music from another MMORPG I scored. One time I even got paid only 10 dollars for a whole ten song soundtrack. But keep in mind that I make it a point to get ripped off because it makes it easier to get work and build my portfolio.

It's good to charge by the minute. For every minute of music you compose, charge some money.

Just use your judgment and talk it out with the developers before you do anything.

Edit: Also, take my advice with a grain of salt. I'm still working my way up and have a lot to learn myself, so yeah. I do things my way, but for all I know, my way is wrong.

[ugo]

ok, thanks for the info

[runagate]

OK, well I had mixed feelngs about this since everything in it is Ugo-tastc goodness except the drums which, beleve it or not, I didn't recognze as part Ironhead. Though those are the good parts. It there weren't some glitch fx on those drums I'd be trying to convince you to take them out. They just scream pre-made loop. Scream. Which, in a way, is good for if I recall correctly this is part of your quick toss-together song series (this is a quickie by your standards? bastard...) so I can hear where the changes inspired the fantastic arrangement (damn, that's a lot of synths I thought I layered...)

Jeez, I love Ironhead.

I'm always surprised by our similarities in modal melodic content, especially in the context that you have a strength where one of my main weaknesses is - being a lead/soloist for so long I'm terrible at extrapolating on melodies the way you do and I just can't put my finger on where you seemngly always succeed whereas I generally fall short of the iconic turn of phrase that you seem to create, using the similarly non-theorized musical imagination elements.

Guh, those drums What a whack-assed Korn beat
If it makes you feel any better, though, that's about the most negative thing I've ever though about any element of your songs

Overall, a mighty fine accomplishment
Which is saying a lot having savored the last one about 50 tims which is just think is sheer genius.

[ugo]

thanks for the feedback runagate

OK, well I had mixed feelngs about this since everything in it is Ugo-tastc goodness except the drums which, beleve it or not, I didn't recognze as part Ironhead.

ironhead is kind of buried within all the other stuff, but from it im using the tic, bash, clang, thuds, whack, and a few dings. one of the thuds is being used as a bass, then doubled with a real bass at the same pitch, so its even harder to pick out of the mix.

on clockwork earth, i think i only used ironhead for the occasional crash, the rest were loops.

They just scream pre-made loop.

and they most certainly are. drum programming really is not a major strong point for me so i rely heavily on loops to achieve the vibe that i cant seem to put together as well all on my own.

(this is a quickie by your standards? bastard...)

well, not that quick. while this experiment has got me usually writing the bulk of the song in 2 hours, i spend a good deal of time working on it further over the following days. (adding more tracks, cleaning stuff up, mixing, etc.)

Guh, those drums What a whack-assed Korn beat

too commonplace for you eh? is it the chorus that really bothers you or is the rest of it problematic for you as well? any suggestions on what you would have preferred/expected to hear? (btw, im surprised you didnt have the same complaints about the chorus of clockwork earth, since it also has a pretty generic beat.)

[runagate]

Uh, it's not that it's generic... kinda sorta trying hard to be hip? Actually it's not that it's a bad loop, really, nor that those elements don't fit together, but that they seem to spring from a totally different personality than the rest of the song, which suppose just goes to show how much I think about and appreciate your songs. It's like some people getting jalous when ther pets lke someone they don't like

Shit, I myself oftentmes use super-smple beats because mousing complex drums could easily take longer than even a whole 128-bar jazz solo, as know so well. Nothing wrong with that; I'm sure most everyone here wishes they had a skilled drummer chained up in the basement (where they belong).

[ugo]

Uh, it's not that it's generic... kinda sorta trying hard to be hip?

ah, ok...i think i understand now. to be honest, i didnt put a huge amount of time into the drums. i just demoed a bunch of loops, stacked up the ones that worked with the groove and got the job done, and moved on. so now that the rest of the song is cool, perhaps i should go back to the drums and see if i can do something a bit more interesting with them.

[runagate]

My advice, aside from allowing me to bump this all day long with weird comments, is to never take my aesthetic seriously, just enjoy my adoration

Have you heard my songs?

[cptgone]

superb track. i like how varied it is, the flow is super. lovely bass. i esp. love the wacky sound at about 2/3rd

[ugo]

superb track. i like how varied it is, the flow is super. lovely bass. i esp. love the wacky sound at about 2/3rd

thanks!

[waveriderarts]

Great work Ugo!
...still listening to pachyderm too -love this track- you surprised me! I will get to know this spider one with time...

[mayan]

Great piece. Somewhat visual for me and cinematic. I like the feeling - there's a clash between the rythym sections and the relatively demure melodic elements which works for me. Very cool, ugo.

[ugo]

thanks guys, im glad you dig it.

[Sickle]

Brilliant.

[ugo]

thanks donovan