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A3ntar wrote:Speaking of input methods, what are you all using as guitar computer interface(s)?
I've got three setups:
1) PC laptop with an Indigo I/O PCMCIA card, fed by an M-Audio Audiobuddy. Very nice combination, would even be slightly better in case I could use a PCI card such as the Audiophile.
2) NI Rig Control, used on either the PC laptop or the Macbook.
3) M-Audio FW410, which has got instrument ins as well. Mainy used for the Macbook.

All the three combinations seem to be very suitable as the results I'm getting out of the same patches are really close to each other. Rig Control actually seems to "smear" the transients a tad more, but maybe for guitars that's not even a bad thing. After all, it was basically made to deal with instrument signals only.

The secret behind getting a good direct guitar signal into your computer is using some sort of D.I. box (not required for active pickups) to change the high impedance guitar signal to some low impedance one, then using a rather neutral preamp to boost things up to line level and finally running them into not all too shabby converters.
All three devices I'm using are doing this in combination.

In your setup, there's the flaw of the soundblaster being really, really bad in terms of converters. So, even if you'd use a linedriver such as the Audiobuddy, it might still not sound all that great.
Using the POD XT isn't exactly an option either, as it colors the sound too much, even if you bypass everything. Or are you using it as an audio interface as well?

If I were you, I would try to get a more or less decent setup. USB or soundblaster fed monitors can't be part of any such a thing, sorry for the bad news.
It seems you're not using a laptop. In that case getting an Audiophile and an Audiobuddy will nicely sort you out for less than 200 bucks.
Then run the sinal into anything which would send it to some headphones or speakers. Even a mediocre HiFi amp will do.
There are 3 kinds of people:
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Sascha Franck wrote:
A3ntar wrote:Speaking of input methods, what are you all using as guitar computer interface(s)?
I've got three setups:
1) PC laptop with an Indigo I/O PCMCIA card, fed by an M-Audio Audiobuddy. Very nice combination, would even be slightly better in case I could use a PCI card such as the Audiophile.
2) NI Rig Control, used on either the PC laptop or the Macbook.
3) M-Audio FW410, which has got instrument ins as well. Mainy used for the Macbook.

All the three combinations seem to be very suitable as the results I'm getting out of the same patches are really close to each other. Rig Control actually seems to "smear" the transients a tad more, but maybe for guitars that's not even a bad thing. After all, it was basically made to deal with instrument signals only.

The secret behind getting a good direct guitar signal into your computer is using some sort of D.I. box (not required for active pickups) to change the high impedance guitar signal to some low impedance one, then using a rather neutral preamp to boost things up to line level and finally running them into not all too shabby converters.
All three devices I'm using are doing this in combination.

In your setup, there's the flaw of the soundblaster being really, really bad in terms of converters. So, even if you'd use a linedriver such as the Audiobuddy, it might still not sound all that great.
Using the POD XT isn't exactly an option either, as it colors the sound too much, even if you bypass everything. Or are you using it as an audio interface as well?

If I were you, I would try to get a more or less decent setup. USB or soundblaster fed monitors can't be part of any such a thing, sorry for the bad news.
It seems you're not using a laptop. In that case getting an Audiophile and an Audiobuddy will nicely sort you out for less than 200 bucks.
Then run the sinal into anything which would send it to some headphones or speakers. Even a mediocre HiFi amp will do.
Thanks for the detailed reply Sascha, much appreciated.

For now I am using my podXTL as both input and audio interface. You know what? the podXTL has a direct mode in which Line6 claimes that is a true bypass, meaning it bypasses everything ( as opposed to turning all values to 0 ) and feeds only piezo to the host.

You're right in that I do not use a laptop for my live gigging, I use my podXTL. But I need nice sounds for recording, which is why I had such high hopes for AT2. Altough I would still need a solid audio interface.

I am seriously considering getting an Audiophile 2496. The price is also right. Now if I do buy it, would I still need to get an AudioBuddy for exmaple? I am guessing yes because I see no 1/4" connection on the 2496.

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A3ntar wrote: I am seriously considering getting an Audiophile 2496. The price is also right. Now if I do buy it, would I still need to get an AudioBuddy for exmaple? I am guessing yes because I see no 1/4" connection on the 2496.
Yes, the Audiophile is working with line signals only.
But, if your POD is indeed featuring "true bypass" while still boosting the signal to line level, you might be able to use it for a start (or even for more than that).
Actually, the Audiobuddy might even be overkill for what you're asking for. I mean, it's got two input channels and additional phantom powered mic ins on each of them. Nothing you need for guitar stuff only.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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Sascha Franck wrote:
A3ntar wrote:Speaking of input methods, what are you all using as guitar computer interface(s)?
I've got three setups:

2) NI Rig Control, used on either the PC laptop or the Macbook.
Sascha,
Could I use Amplitube 2 with Rig Kontrol without NI Guitar Rig software? Does Rig Control work like a midi controller?

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Unfortunately, Rig Control can only be used as a plain audio interface in case you don't use Guitar Rig. The controls do nothing in that case. I really wish they would...
There are 3 kinds of people:
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I wonder if some of you has tried wah wah automation in amplitube 2 stomp section under Cubase SX, Nuendo, Sonar, etc. I am getting the wah wah sound as an annoying zippering or stroboscopic noise after recording the automation from my cubase sx guitar tracks. The weird thing is that this doesn't happen during the recording process and while the mouse motion go, then I hit play and voila...there is. I try min and max values in automation reduction level on CubSX preferences, record on 24 and 16 bit, different latency values in my M-audio Delta 44 setup but nothing seem fix that. The ugly noise still even in final rendered audio. This first time I get such thing on my frequent automation routines. It could be great If any of you can try some test on wah wah automation and write here about results. Thank you .....


This is a rendered audio sample of the annoying altered wahwah sound I am getting with amplitube 2 automation on stomp wahwah http://sitiopro.com/music/strobozipperwah.mp3

I have to remark all is right with automation on Guitar Rig 2 and other plugins and vsti's. I like Amplitube 2, it certainly got serious improvement over version 1 but I think IKMM have to polish roughness in order to get a near to perfect product.

My PC conf: AMD 3 ghz, 2 gb ddr400 , m-audio delta 44 and all the rest of usual right stuff on board.

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Jazzguitar, it seems as if something isn't following the VST specs properly, only offering MIDI resolution for your recorded wah movements when playing back stuff.
Sorry for the vague answer, because I really have no idea about what exactly it might be.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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okay now this thread is well passed 300 pages and things have changed for me drastically in the last couple of weeks for me. This new computer revealed something cool a few nights ago, low, low latency. With my new soundcard I got amplitube le...no big deal, but I tried it being very skeptical. It in itself didn't do much for me, however with my card running at 3ms I was getting low enough latencies that I was not bothered by it. TBH this shocked me because I really was biased. I was running vsampler, B4II, minimonsta, DFHs all in FL...not the heaviest load but enough to impress me...now I guess I'll have to try Amplitube :shrug:
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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It is ok Sacha, thank you. Anyway did yourself test it in your own system?

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Not yet, Jazzguitar. Until now, I have always been using a real wah, which I found to give me better playing response. But I may just try with Rig Control and GR2 later on,
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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Hink wrote:okay now this thread is well passed 300 pages and things have changed for me drastically in the last couple of weeks for me. This new computer revealed something cool a few nights ago, low, low latency. With my new soundcard I got amplitube le...no big deal, but I tried it being very skeptical. It in itself didn't do much for me, however with my card running at 3ms I was getting low enough latencies that I was not bothered by it. TBH this shocked me because I really was biased. I was running vsampler, B4II, minimonsta, DFHs all in FL...not the heaviest load but enough to impress me...now I guess I'll have to try Amplitube :shrug:
What are your new computer specs Hink?

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I finally got the AT2 demo installed and now I have to have it. :cry: My wife says I can have it for xmas. My baby loves me! :D

I like it better than my PODxt. No foolin' :shock:

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A3ntar wrote:
Hink wrote:okay now this thread is well passed 300 pages and things have changed for me drastically in the last couple of weeks for me. This new computer revealed something cool a few nights ago, low, low latency. With my new soundcard I got amplitube le...no big deal, but I tried it being very skeptical. It in itself didn't do much for me, however with my card running at 3ms I was getting low enough latencies that I was not bothered by it. TBH this shocked me because I really was biased. I was running vsampler, B4II, minimonsta, DFHs all in FL...not the heaviest load but enough to impress me...now I guess I'll have to try Amplitube :shrug:
What are your new computer specs Hink?
CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz
Motherboard: ASUS Core2 Duo Motherboard
Memory: 2GB DDR2-800 : 2x1GB (expandable to 8GB)
VGA card: ATI Radeon X300SE 128MB DVI/VGA
Primary Hard Drive: 160GB SATA II (Primary Drive)
Audio Hard Drive: 500GB SATA II (Audio Drive)
Monitor: 22" Samsung Widescreen
Soundcard: Emu 1820m

:D
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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Sound like a damn decent system, Hink. Everything running flawless so far?
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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thanx Sascha, yeah no problems so far...it was built by pcaudio labs and it does not do anything but music (including no internet)...now I have to finish more songs, a tall order...:hihi:
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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