Muse Research

zoogoo · Post by **zoogoo** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:06 am

you say that receptor can run 16 synths and 57 effects, but at what CPU cost? different plugins take up a different amount of cost.

also a Amd X2 5200 with 3 GB ram cost about $1000 and can run pretty close to what receptor can.
We can run 16 synths and 57 effects, but they are ones with low CPU cost.

Could you run "8" reaktors 5's and "8" absynth 4's and 57 ohm boyz delay's without it lagging?

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:58 am

Likely some substantial 'CPU cost' ~ What's your point?
Is this a competition for you?

zoogoo · Post by **zoogoo** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:29 am

this is not a competition at all. i just read everything on the muse site and i am trying to get all the questions i have answered before i spend a significant amount of money.

can you tell me what are the spicific names/brands of synths, samplers, and effects can be run all at once with no lagging?

i am sorry if i am chalanging the power of this product.

thesoundsmith · Post by **thesoundsmith** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:36 am

It would be easier if you could tell us what you would like tpo run, and what kind of app-live, studio orchestral, solo piano, etc. If someone =has a similar rig, they could give you some answers. I run multiple plugs live, and a totally different set for recording, and another set of setups for 'loop'-style stuff,another for rock gigs vs. jazz gigs, and all pof them are very different in setup and CPU/nemory usage.

So what do you want to do? And what do you NOT care about?

zoogoo · Post by **zoogoo** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:38 am

well,
could i run 16 reaktor 5's all at once with no lag?

could i run all these at once with no lag?

Discovery, Phantom, Vertigo
DR-008, BFD Lite
VectorSector
impOSCar, M-Tron, Minimonsta:Melohman, Oddity
GEQ-7, GMO-1
Albino 2, daOrgan, RMIV
B4, FM7, Kompakt, Pro-53
Blue Tubes Bundle, Essential Studio Suite and Rock Amp Legends
Hematohm, Mobilohm, OhmBoyz, QuadFrohmage
Lexicon PSP42, Lexicon PSP84, MixPack**, StereoPack, Nitro, Vintage Warmer
Beast, PlastiCZ, Slayer 2, Vanguard
z3ta+
CQ1 Multi-Band Compander, DQ1 Dynamic Equaliser, SV-315 Compressor, SV-517 MasterVerb, TrackPlug, FinalPlug

i just would like to read someones maxed out set up with no lag.

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:55 am

Actually while we are on the subject. I already have the 2GB 200GB Receptor. Im thinking of buying a laptop to run stuff that is'nt available to receptor yet. Something small but fast. I think there are 3GB laptops available but I don't know if the price would be significantly low enough. I know it's a bit off topic, but what is the best chipset for a laptop doing audio applications? There seem to be loads! I know you can configure Windows XP for audio which helps it a lot too.

c3boy

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:08 pm

You said yourself that different plugins take different amonts of CPU time. And it also depends on the patches you use and polyphony.

So how in hell is anyone going to be able to answer how much the Receptor can handle ?

Branis · Post by **Branis** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:30 pm

zoogoo wrote:you say that receptor can run 16 synths and 57 effects, but at what CPU cost? different plugins take up a different amount of cost.

also a Amd X2 5200 with 3 GB ram cost about $1000 and can run pretty close to what receptor can.
We can run 16 synths and 57 effects, but they are ones with low CPU cost.

Could you run "8" reaktors 5's and "8" absynth 4's and 57 ohm boyz delay's without it lagging?

The point (16 synths and 57 effects) is not in Receptor's processing power, but in the routing possibilities. That means that you can not use more than 16 synths because that's how much synth channels Receptor has.

thesoundsmith · Post by **thesoundsmith** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:40 pm

Many of the plugs you describe are CPU hogs. There is nothing on the market that I am aware of that could run the setup you described (the first one.) Also, I'm not sure if all those plugs run on Receptor (I'm not familiar with the first ones in your list.) But what I can say is that Receptor will run more of them than a regular computer with the same processing speed and RAM - the OS is streamlined for better response and memory usage.

zoogoo · Post by **zoogoo** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:31 am

i basicly listed all the plugins that were on the muse reaserch site.

I know its an extream example. Its so hard to determine what i want to spend my money on, but now i know.

it's made for people who are scared of computers, people who are ignorant, people who make rock and pop music and just want some crappy virtual analog zeta+ vanguard moog emulator to accompany their electric bass and electric guitar and acoustic drums.

We recently got a Amd 5000 x2 with 4 GB ram for $1200.
it can run a significant amount of plugins, more than this product described. This is no contest. You talk about routing capabilites, the computer has a good sound card and can route any way this product can.

Receptor is defently a good product and does what it was made to do, but i got the wrong impression that it could do something no computer cant do.

thanks for you help guys. please do not take offense to my comments.

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:49 am

zoogoo wrote: 'it's made for people who are scared of computers, people who are ignorant'

I think you'll find that a fair few people will take offence at that comment. Maybe you don't want to understand Receptor and not the other way around?

There are guys on here who sound VERY professional at computer literacy.

Xnah · Post by **Xnah** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:16 pm

zoogoo wrote:Receptor is defently a good product and does what it was made to do, but i got the wrong impression that it could do something no computer cant do.

thanks for you help guys. please do not take offense to my comments.

I don't have Receptor, but just stumbled on this thread, and it really made me wonder: What's your point, zoogoo?

When I talk to my 'hardware-based' friends about VSTi's, their MAIN concern is stability, not processing power. Running your rig on a laptop or desktop pc, means that all kinds of other things are going on... The only thing that you really want during a performance, is that your hardware/software setup is stable. NOT the amount of different VSTi's, as long as it's reasonable. And AFAIK stability is one of the most important USP's for Receptor.

Of course you can tweak and finetune any laptop to run very stable. But it's quite understandable that musicians don't want to waste time and effort on that.

MCal · Post by **MCal** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:06 pm

Uurrgghh.. I think Zoogoo was just trying to get a rise out of us lol.. lets just let him/it pass and get on with our lives/music huh?

Al.

c3boy · Post by **c3boy** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:12 pm

Yes, your right, here's to the new year and new software for Receptor!

rubaiyat_23 · Post by **rubaiyat_23** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:15 pm

"Receptor is defently a good product and does what it was made to do, but i got the wrong impression that it could do something no computer cant do."

The best creative results I've had with Receptor have been when I've used it without a screen attached. One can navigate from the front panel interface, which keeps things flexible without being visually distracting.

Try using a PC or Mac without a screen to accomplish the same thing-notwithstanding thermal management and portability. There is something about the way it works that is somewhat beguiling, though perhaps not for everyone....

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16 synths and 57 effects at what CPU cost?