Urs wrote:I might just put in all 15 filter modes of the Matrix 12.
Question - in the beta we get only one XMF module available - do you intend to keep to one, or offer at least 2 or more, like you currently do for the other filters?
Short trance tune w/ Zebra2
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- KVRAF
- 4229 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Right here, in front of my computer...
Question - in the beta we get only one XMF module available - do you intend to keep to one, or offer at least 2 or more, like you currently do for the other filters?
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- u-he
- 30213 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
I'll put in 2 of these, naturallybeej wrote:Question - in the beta we get only one XMF module available - do you intend to keep to one, or offer at least 2 or more, like you currently do for the other filters?
- more wouldn't make much sense I guess...I just shit myself when I tried it at 196 kHz. The bit of aliasing that you inevitably get when you overload a lot (+60dB through the distortion... d'oh) is virtually *gone* at that samplerate... you can hardly play it anymore on contemporary cpus, but still... might be good for mixdowns...
Maybe I should add a button to switch between "live" and "render" modes?
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- KVRian
- 623 posts since 9 May, 2003 from Tumwater, WA
Ah. The 'brown' button.
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- KVRist
- 71 posts since 12 Sep, 2006
Absolutely!
Live for normal use, Render for your omfg murder-me quality for mixes.
Mmm, delicious!
Live for normal use, Render for your omfg murder-me quality for mixes.
Mmm, delicious!
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- u-he
- 30213 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Yes.
However, it's gotta be well thought out. There are different requirements for oversampling effects vs. instruments. It would be also intrigueing to have instruments work at lower samplerates i.e. 48kHz while the host operates at 96/192kHz, because instruments usually have a bigger cpu footprint.
I'll think about it and postpone the decision for a succeeding update...
Urs
However, it's gotta be well thought out. There are different requirements for oversampling effects vs. instruments. It would be also intrigueing to have instruments work at lower samplerates i.e. 48kHz while the host operates at 96/192kHz, because instruments usually have a bigger cpu footprint.
I'll think about it and postpone the decision for a succeeding update...
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- KVRist
- 71 posts since 12 Sep, 2006
Yeah okay, you mentioned a new feature and I lit right up.
Reality is, I only operate at 44khz 24-bit tops in the sequencer, because I KNOW all my instruments/effects work there with predictable quality/cpu usage... which serves to reason that rendering any higher in my environment has very unpredictable results.
Some VST(i)'s don't sound, some of them just make noise... various weird stuff, and it's very disappointing. I wouldn't mind dumping everything to 192khz 32-bit and then dragging the quality down to 44khz/16-bit MP3 or whatnot using super-high-quality resamplers and all.
But I'm just odd like that I guess.
Reality is, I only operate at 44khz 24-bit tops in the sequencer, because I KNOW all my instruments/effects work there with predictable quality/cpu usage... which serves to reason that rendering any higher in my environment has very unpredictable results.
Some VST(i)'s don't sound, some of them just make noise... various weird stuff, and it's very disappointing. I wouldn't mind dumping everything to 192khz 32-bit and then dragging the quality down to 44khz/16-bit MP3 or whatnot using super-high-quality resamplers and all.
But I'm just odd like that I guess.
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- u-he
- 30213 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Wow... stuff that doesn't work at arbitrary samplerate? That's pretty ridiculous... many hosts, i.e. Live, do oversample by themselves during mixdowns... that would make these plugins pretty unusable...
Well, my stuff should generally sound identical regardless of samplerate, but I often allow for very extreme settings that might introduce aliasing (the Overload parameter in the new filter probably being the most insane example). I wouldn't have thought it, but rendering Z2 at 192kHz makes a subtle yet nice difference.
Now sure, I'd hardly ever work with anything higher than 48kHz on a project, so a ultra-quality render option for the final mixdown might be a great option!
Well, my stuff should generally sound identical regardless of samplerate, but I often allow for very extreme settings that might introduce aliasing (the Overload parameter in the new filter probably being the most insane example). I wouldn't have thought it, but rendering Z2 at 192kHz makes a subtle yet nice difference.
Now sure, I'd hardly ever work with anything higher than 48kHz on a project, so a ultra-quality render option for the final mixdown might be a great option!