Sony Oxford at NAMM...going native!

[original flipper]

HI

All I can say as an ex Powercore owner (and Sony plug-in owner) is that IMO the sony EQ is very SMOOTH sounding - in other words, you can attenuate frequencies without getting harsh sounding results; in fact I often found it didn't have enough 'boost' because you expect (especially at hi frequencies) to get a break up at extreme levels of boost.

In side by side comparrison with Sonalksis, Kjaerhus, Voxengo and others it was without doubt the sweeter sounding.

This is all just opinion though, but my main test was always to boost the high frequencies on cymbals, hi-hats, guitars amnd listen for the result - it never failed to boost with dignity!

I still find it difficult to find a decent eq at any price - for $200 I think it would still be worth the price - assuming it remained cpu efficient .

The PLP(?) eq was the only other eq I thought better; but that is a mastering eq that guzzles cycles.

If it becomes available then people can try for themselves; hope a dongle is not involved.

Flipper.

[Kingston]

this is somewhat an idiotic discussion...
based on speculation...

the plugs have been available for years. some of us have heard them, hence no speculation.

[original flipper]

Whoops!!!

[steffensen]

this is somewhat an idiotic discussion...
based on speculation...

the plugs have been available for years. some of us have heard them, hence no speculation.

As i doubt u have tried the VST version yet, its without a doubt speculation.

[Kingston]

this is somewhat an idiotic discussion...
based on speculation...

the plugs have been available for years. some of us have heard them, hence no speculation.

As i doubt u have tried the VST version yet, its without a doubt speculation.

of course it isn't! ever heard of waves? The VST versions are carbon copies of the other formats, discounting the differences between DSP architectures - something that affects waves, for example.

The situation isn't going to be miraculously different with Sony either, since we're talking about the exact same DSP architectures.

[rogeriomatos]

oh my... its a good news, no?! so, whats the problem?!

dont buy if you dont want.

now its vst, very nice! not only tdm rtas,etc, whats the real problem!?


price, sound quality, dsp shit?

so, just don't buy it!

forget it.


gracias

[Kingston]

so, whats the problem?!

what makes you think there is one?

[bduffy]

Indeed. Apparently we don't know that we don't have to buy plugins.

[Kingston]

we don't have to buy plugins.

well, I admit it, an awful lot of times this isn't exactly clear as day to me.

[bduffy]

Yeah, come to think of it...me and my credit card...

[hifiboom]

Kingston, its good for you if you don't like the Sony stuff...

But this doesn't make it a fact that they sound bad.

You are the typical example of a standard kvr master that does know everything better than any other...
In fact I don't care.

[Kingston]

Kingston, its good for you if you don't like the Sony stuff...

But this doesn't make it a fact that they sound bad.

I didn't say they do! I didn't say I dislike them! Since when has bread & butter been automatically bad?

You're reading way too much into what I say.

[bmanic]

Have some of these critics here of Sony Oxford actually HEARD the plugins ?
I did a lot of testing in A/B situations, and the only native thing coming somewhat close was Sonalksis, except some Scope plugins which were on that level.
High-priced they are, but not without reason, i fear.

Eh? Of course. I've used and heard them all (as TDM plugins and also as powercore plugins) except the dynamics, which may be very good for all I know, but especially the hype for the EQ baffles me. I'd say Electri-Q posihfopit edition (not to mention the commercial version!) is of a higher quality and infinitely more flexible. Then there are low cost, superior offerings from voxengo. Elio sound Air EQ beats it down also (though that one is actually expensive as well).

.. then there are the future offerings from Nebula..

EDIT: and before you guys read too much into what I say and throw me in the same burning pile with Kingston, all this is IN MY OWN HUMBLE OPINION. Go out and try the plugins, do some comparisons. If you like em and like spending that wad of cash then by all means, go right ahead!

Cheers!
bManic

[bmanic]

this is somewhat an idiotic discussion...
based on speculation...

the plugs have been available for years. some of us have heard them, hence no speculation.

As i doubt u have tried the VST version yet, its without a doubt speculation.

And they would make superior, new algorithms for VST that kill their own TDM range? I doubt that..

Cheers!
bManic

[defjamm]

All I can say as an ex Powercore owner (and Sony plug-in owner) is that IMO the sony EQ is very SMOOTH sounding - in other words, you can attenuate frequencies without getting harsh sounding results; in fact I often found it didn't have enough 'boost' because you expect (especially at hi frequencies) to get a break up at extreme levels of boost.

In side by side comparrison with Sonalksis, Kjaerhus, Voxengo and others it was without doubt the sweeter sounding.

This is all just opinion though, but my main test was always to boost the high frequencies on cymbals, hi-hats, guitars amnd listen for the result - it never failed to boost with dignity!

these kind of tests are better if you use something like this:
http://www.savioursofsoul.de/Christian/ ... alyser.zip

because you could be comparing total different curves. i wouldn't be surprised if the oxford eq uses one of the implementations which are also availabe in Electri-Q. i think somebody mentioned in the past that the oxford eq is an orfanidis one, which isn't anything special today. but i don't know until i try or somebody else who knows what i talk about and reports back.