It's not that I'm lazy ...

[gizmostatic]

Anyone know what kind of cable I need to use the ADAT outputs on the Receptor?

Was thinking it's worth investigating pluging the receptor into my MOTU 828MKII that way since Muse apparently isn't releasing the AU version of Uniwire anytime soon. I'd simply check it myself, but i'm at work and I'm stopping buy a music store to pick up Sample Tank 2 before getting home, and was thinking it'd be a good time to pick up the appropriate cable to work with that.


TIA


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Hmm, unfortunately my local Guitar Center isn't stocking Sampletank, so I guess I can just figure this out when I get home.

Oh well, i'll report back my challenges/success with using the ADAT outs on the REceptor once I get it figured out.

[Hybernation]

Anyone know what kind of cable I need to use the ADAT outputs on the Receptor?

It's called "Lightpipe" or "TOS Link":

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/P ... -main.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK

http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-HOS-OPT117.html#

Was thinking it's worth investigating pluging the receptor into my MOTU 828MKII that way since Muse apparently isn't releasing the AU version of Uniwire anytime soon.

I prefer using my spdif and adat outs to uniwire. a LOT lower latency....a few more cables, no big deal.

Also, since Uniwire doesn't have "fast freeze" or "offline mode" this option actually saves time when it's time to render all my VST and receptor tracks to audio tracks. With ADAT+spdif I can render 5 stereo Receptor tracks in one pass. With Uniwire it takes FIVE passes IN REAL TIME.

Just my .02 worth

[ajswanson]

That's similar to what I do. I run the ADAT out to my MOTU Traveler ADAT in. And the same with SPDIF. I also have a yamaha i88x that I hang off the PC and can do the same to it. It works really well that way. Just make sure you get the clock set up right.

[philosorhymes]

Also, since Uniwire doesn't have "fast freeze" or "offline mode" this option actually saves time when it's time to render all my VST and receptor tracks to audio tracks. With ADAT+spdif I can render 5 stereo Receptor tracks in one pass. With Uniwire it takes FIVE passes IN REAL TIME.

Just my .02 worth

Hi Hyber, could you explain this last paragraph a bit more please? To use uniwire I was under the impression you HAVE to use your SPDIF for syncing anyway? I guess you are now transferring your audio via ADAT during mixdown?

[gizmostatic]

Thanks for the replies, sounds like I'm on the right track, and certainly feel much less annoyed that Uniwire AU is not here, especially with what sounds like a better option anyway!

So is the spdif used exclusively for clocking and the TOS for audio then? And do you need to return spdif from the interface back to the Receptor? I've experienced digital 'clicky' wierdness with spdif when there wasn't a return to create a 'loop', particularly with a Digi002 and my Kurz. PC2.

[ajswanson]

I'll let Hybernation speak for himself, but since I am running Digital Performer on a MacBook Pro, I can't use Uniwire. Instead, I treat the Receptor like a Outboard Module like a Proteus or a Motif. When I need to render the MIDI to audio, I can route the channels to ADAT and SPDIF outs. Those are connected to my MOTU Traveler. Now I can record discrete tracks from the Receptor to Performer.

There is some "clicky wierdness" like gizmo says if the clock isnt set up right. Since I am going in and out throught the Traveler, the SPDIF clock keeps everything in sync.

[Hybernation]

Also, since Uniwire doesn't have "fast freeze" or "offline mode" this option actually saves time when it's time to render all my VST and receptor tracks to audio tracks. With ADAT+spdif I can render 5 stereo Receptor tracks in one pass. With Uniwire it takes FIVE passes IN REAL TIME.

Just my .02 worth

Hi Hyber, could you explain this last paragraph a bit more please? To use uniwire I was under the impression you HAVE to use your SPDIF for syncing anyway? I guess you are now transferring your audio via ADAT during mixdown?

You are correct, you have to use the SPDIF anyway for clock. My only point was that I use the SPDIF + ADAT to monitor and then when I want to render the Receptor tracks to Audio, I can just create 5 audio tracks on Sonar, set the inputs to the SPDIF+ADAT1-4 then then record them all in one pass.

With uniwire you MIGHT be able to render multiple tracks in one pass, but the way it works (doesn't work actually) with Sonar I couldn't make this happen. Actually, as I recall in Sonar I couldn't use more than one instance because of the dual-core incompat with Uniwire. So to render multiple tracks with Uniwire I HAD to do it one track at a time since Uniwire only has one audio output.

I guess my pain point, anyway, was the latency. It's LOWER if you use MIDI and monitor off the digital outs, treating Receptor as more of a glorified MIDI Synth module than trying to use Uniwire.

[philosorhymes]

Thanks Hyber, I've got you now. I think I got confused cos I can still use the multiple tracks via uniwire. I have not considered doing via the method you mentioned. I might do that actually. It would probably be better.

[gizmostatic]

Wow, how very cool! I just did a studio session saturday using the PC2 as controller, and using the adat outs from receptor into adat in's on the motu 828mkII ... SO EASY! Cost me $40 in cables (extra spdif, extra TOS for backups). Also using it at home w/ my DP5 to do key tracks for a different project .. SEAMLESS!!

Totally the way to go .. Thanks Hyber and ajswanson for the help!! Today's challenge, installing SampleTank 2 and Ivory on Receptor.

Thanks!

[gizmostatic]

and I just found out my Sample Tank is delivered and waiting for me at home! This death star is about to be fully operational .. quite possibly by this friday's gig. yahoo!