Zebra 2.1 Group Buy Anytime Soon?

[beej]

Thanks, that sounds like exactly it. I would want to create parallel oscs. and filter "synths" and control the cutoff amd/or resonance on each filter with the same controller.

Yep, I do exactly this.

I've got templates set up (for example) with three oscillators each with it's own filter, and my "filter" XY pad is preconfigured to control all the cutoffs for all the filter modules on the X axis, and the resonance for all the filter modules on the Y axis, with the X and Y controls mapped to MIDI controllers.

[beatz]

buy it. you won't regret it

[pdxindy]

That sounds great. so is there a way to define controller routings to any non-unique destination? - that would allow a double 2 osc. VA config. to have a single set of controllers for the duplicated parameters... that would work!

I'm not totally sure what you are wanting to do, so forgive me if I interpret your requirements wrongly, but:

You can do it a number of ways. You could assign the parameters and ranges you want to the XY controls and use external controllers to mod those (say, mod wheel controls X1, with X1 routed to control the cutoffs and resonances of multiple filter modules, and say the pwm speed of multiple oscillators).

Or you can use the mod matrix with mod mixers, which can mix multiple mod sources to mod destinations. And you can MIDI learn any controls (right click on them) - I'm not sure offhand whether you can route one MIDI controller to multiple parameters.

But that should get you going anyway...

Thanks, that sounds like exactly it. I would want to create parallel oscs. and filter "synths" and control the cutoff amd/or resonance on each filter with the same controller.

The enthusiasm and helpfulness of the Zebra users on this forum speaks volumes!

Thanks again.

the X/Y's are good for this because you can set the modulator range as well. So you want parameter A to go from value 30-60 over the first half of the modwheel and parameter B go from value 15-40 over the whole range of the modwheel, you can do things like that.

And since you can put 8 parameters on each X or Y you can put the cutoff and resonance for 2 filters on the modwheel and have room for an osc mod as well.

[Sequent]

I'm demo'ing filterscape... you know... we were talking here about $199 for Zebra being perhaps unaffordable for many and nobody mentioned that for $129 filterscape (which includes filterscape VA) might be (and probably is) more than enough.

I think I may actually go for Filterscape instead and then revisit Zebra later in the year.

What do you guys who have these things think?

[beatz]

my opinion is biased, i own both. if you need a powerful modular synth go for zebra. VA is great but less flexible. the filter is amazing though, sometimes so amazing, that i don't actually make any music with it, but zebra features in almost all my tracks.

[raikard233]

I have Z2 and i've tried Filterscape, they are two different things, in synthesis architecture and in sound design approach.
That's what Urs said some days ago:

Filterscape and Z2 are two different things. FilterscapeVA can easily be big or thin, as the eq is easily programmed. In opposition, Z2 is more like a canvas that can be layed out in a wider range of sounds.

I think that if you like to program and design your sound you can't go wrong with Zebra2...if you want a more simple synth go for the Filterscape.

[Jeremy_NSL]

Keep in mind that Filterscape has a mono architechture whereas Zebra2 is fully stereo. So if you want to make large, expansive sounds Zebra2 is the best choice. Filterscape is also nice, especially if you can use the EQ-per voice to its full potential.

[Sequent]

I appreciate your input, everyone!

Z2 sounds like it would be an awesome beast to have. The modulation matrix itself looks like a brilliant implementation.

I'm not afraid of modulars and welcome the flexibility. I'm also looking at Z2 instead of Vaz Modular. The price would be almost the same for me - being a Vaz customer already. And it looks like u-he is actively going places with some great ideas (the coming scripting sounds like it will be very intriguing).

But I'm thinking Filterscape might be a good place to start. The fact that both synths are different means that my money won't be wasted by eventually having both.

Jeremy, thank you for pointing out the mono/stereo difference between the two. That IS definitely something for me to consider as well here.

[Sequent]

Just a 'personal' update. I didn't realize what the Dinosaur upgrade was all about. Well, it looks like I definitely qualify for it (several times over), which puts me over the edge for sure!

I would say that everyone who's been reading this thread and who doesn't yet have Z2 needs to check all the details of the offer to see if they might not qualify.