KVR Audio

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:42 am

Thanks folks. Anybody know of anything interesting in the software arena?

MadBrain · Post by **MadBrain** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:38 am

I like this one: Rousseau/Chinese/"Jianpu" notation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbered_musical_notation

It displays the musical relationships very clearly, or at least a lot more directly than staff notation: the tonic is written simply as "1" for instance. (the system is also instant "numbered bass" too)

gsoto · Post by **gsoto** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:05 am

Not exactly a general notation system but this reminded me of the back cover of Brian Eno's Music for Airports:

lateralus778 · Post by **lateralus778** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:08 am

what about all this "computer" music that seems to be so popular?
I'm interested in seeing the machine code of a ProTools/FL/Cubase project.
That is a REAL MAN'S notation system.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:18 am

lateralus778 wrote:what about all this "computer" music that seems to be so popular?
I'm interested in seeing the machine code of a ProTools/FL/Cubase project.
That is a REAL MAN'S notation system.

You may lkike this, then:

"Trapped In Convert" by Richard Boulanger

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;==============================================================================;
;==============================================================================;
;                            == TRAPPED IN CONVERT ==                          ;
;                                Richard Boulanger                             ;
;==============================================================================; 
;==============================================================================; 
;                                     SCORE                                    ;
;==============================================================================; 
;================================= PARAMETERS =================================;
;==============================================================================; 
; i1:  p6=amp,p7=vibrat,p8=glisdeltime (default < 1),p9=frqdrop                ;
; i2:  p6=amp,p7=rvbsnd,p8=lfofrq,p9=num of harmonics,p10=sweeprate            ;
; i3:  p6=amp,p7=rvbsnd,p8=rndfrq                                              ;
; i4:  p6=amp,p7=fltrswp:strtval,p8=fltrswp:endval,p9=bdwth,p10=rvbsnd         ;
; i5:  p6=amp,p7=rvbatn,p8=pan:1.0,p9=carfrq,p10=modfrq,p11=modndx,p12=rndfrq  ;
; i6:  p5=swpfrq:strt,p6=swpfrq:end,p7=bndwth,p8=rvbsnd,p9=amp                 ;
; i7:  p4=amp,p5=frq,p6=strtphse,p7=endphse,p8=ctrlamp(.1-1),p9=ctrlfnc        ;
;             p10=audfnc(f2,f3,f14,p11=rvbsnd                                  ;
; i8:  p4=amp,p5=swpstrt,p6=swpend,p7=bndwt,p8=rnd1:cps,p9=rnd2:cps,p10=rvbsnd ;
; i9:  p4=delsnd,p5=frq,p6=amp,p7=rvbsnd,p8=rndamp,p9=rndfrq                   ;
; i10: p4=0,p5=frq,p6=amp,p7=rvbsnd,p8=rndamp,p9=rndfrq                        ;
; i11: p4=delsnd,p5=frq,p6=amp,p7=rvbsnd                                       ;
; i12: p6=amp,p7=swpstrt,p8=swppeak,p9=bndwth,p10=rvbsnd                       ;
; i13: p6=amp,p7=vibrat,p8=dropfrq                                             ;
; i98: p2=strt,p3=dur                                                          ;
; i99: p4=pancps                                                               ;
;==============================================================================; 
;========================= FUNCTIONS ==========================================;
;==============================================================================; 
f1   0  8192  10   1
f2   0  512   10   10  8   0   6   0   4   0   1
f3   0  512   10   10  0   5   5   0   4   3   0   1
f4   0  2048  10   10  0   9   0   0   8   0   7   0  4  0  2  0  1
f5   0  2048  10   5   3   2   1   0
f6   0  2048  10   8   10  7   4   3   1
f7   0  2048  10   7   9   11  4   2   0   1   1
f8   0  2048  10   0   0   0   0   7   0   0   0   0  2  0  0  0  1  1
f9   0  2048  10   10  9   8   7   6   5   4   3   2  1
f10  0  2048  10   10  0   9   0   8   0   7   0   6  0  5
f11  0  2048  10   10  10  9   0   0   0   3   2   0  0  1
f12  0  2048  10   10  0   0   0   5   0   0   0   0  0  3
f13  0  2048  10   10  0   0   0   0   3   1
f14  0  512   9    1   3   0   3   1   0   9  .333   180
f15  0  8192  9    1   1   90 
f16  0  2048  9    1   3   0   3   1   0   6   1   0
f17  0  9     5   .1   8   1
f18  0  17    5   .1   10  1   6  .4
f19  0  16    2    1   7   10  7   6   5   4   2   1   1  1  1  1  1  1  1
f20  0  16   -2    0   30  40  45  50  40  30  20  10  5  4  3  2  1  0  0  0
f21  0  16   -2    0   20  15  10  9   8   7   6   5   4  3  2  1  0  0
f22  0  9    -2   .001 .004 .007 .003 .002 .005 .009 .006
;==============================================================================; 
;========================= SECTION I: 78 SECONDS  =============================;
;==============================================================================; 
i1   0.0    24.12   0      11.057   200    0.001  17.8   0.99
i1   1.0    21.76   0      11.049   240    0.001  10.2   0.99
i1   3.6    17.13   0      11.082   390    0.001  11.3   0.99
i1   6.2    15.02   0      11.075   460    0.001  10.5   0.99
i1   8.4    13.85   0      11.069   680    0.001  13.8   0.99
i99  22.0   7.5     5
i2   22.0   4       0      9.029    600    0.6    23     10     0.52
i2   22.13  4       0      9.01     600    0.5    20     6      0.66
i1   26.5   5.6     0      12.019   500    4.0    5.8    0.98
i1   26.51  6.1     0      12.004   550    5.0    5.5    0.98
i1   26.52  5.4     0      12.026   600    5.2    5.6    0.98
i1   26.55  5       0      12.031   660    4.5    5.7    0.98
i99  31.3   0.7     22
i4   31.3   1       0      13.045   2200   6000   7000   30     0.5
i99  32.0   4       11
i2   32.0   4       0      14.107   900    0.4    19     13     0.21
i2   32.14  4       0      11.023   750    0.7    21     9      0.19
i2   32.19  4       0      11.029   589    0.97   20     10     0.22
i4   35.0   1       0      12.029   1000   4600   6500   33     0.6
i99  36.0   10      7
i3   36.0   7.6     0      13.087   800    0.8    57
i1   39.31  8.1     0      10.024   519    3.0    3.1    0.002
i1   39.32  8       0      10.031   520    5.1    3.7    0.001
i1   39.35  7.9     0      10.042   557    3.4    3.5    0.003
i1   39.37  7.86    0      10.050   547    4.2    3.3    0.004
i99  46.0   7.3     2
i5   46.0   0.9     0      4.09     3500   0.2    0.1    3      10   12  27
i5   49.2   1.1     0      3.07     4500   0.1    1.0    5      3    16  30
i99  53.3   9.6     5
i6   53.3   8.5     0.81   3000     17     10     0.6    1.6
i98  62.9   15.1
i99  62.9   15.1    3
i9   62.9   2.9     0.4    4.113    600    0.2    6.2    320
i9   62.93  2.85    0.43   4.115    640    0.23   6.1    300
i9   67.1   7.9     0.2    5.004    700    0.4    4.5    289
i9   67.14  7.78    0.17   5.007    700    0.43   4.4    280
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;==============================================================================; 
;========================= SECTION II: 49 SECONDS =============================;
;==============================================================================; 
i98  0      48.5
i99  0      4.5     1
i9   0      5       0.4    10.01    1200   0.2    28     39
i9   0      5       0.3    9.119    1200   0.4    29     37
i3   0.5    6.5     0      12.067   600    0.6    47
i99  4.5    2       7
i6   4.5    4.3     17     6000     9000   100    0.4    0.9
i99  6.5    9.9     0.7
i7   6.5    3.2     9999   5.023    0.2    0.7    0.6    2      3    0.12
i7   8      1.9     9800   5.039    0.01   0.9    1      3      2    0.23
i7   9      3.8     9900   10.001   0.99   0.1    0.3    3      2    0.12
i3   9.1    5.5     0      10.017   900    0.5    67
i7   9.2    2.5     9890   5.052    0.1    1.0    0.7    2      3    0.23
i8   11     4.6     4      20       8000   590    2      9.9    0.6
i8   15.5   3.1     3      50       4000   129    8      2.6    0.3
i8   16.2   4.3     2      10000    9000   200    12     17.9   1
i99  16.4   10.3    0.3
i7   16.4   3.5     8000   5.019    0.2    0.7    0.5    2      3    0.1
i7   19.3   6.4     8000   5.041    0.01   0.9    1      3      2    0.1
i9   20.2   4       0.4    9.021    1000   0.2    4      100
i9   21     4.2     0.4    9.099    1100   0.4    4      167
i9   21.1   8       0.4    9.043    1000   0.6    4      210
i9   21.25  5       0.4    9.062    1200   0.9    5      200
i99  26.7   5.3     11
i9   26.7   1.9     0.5    4.114    3100   0.1    5.9    300
i9   29.1   2.1     0.1    5.013    2900   0.2    4.2    390
i99  32     6.2     0.28
i9   32     9.1     0.34   5.051    2300   0.5    3.8    420
i9   32.1   9.0     0.4    5.0517   2500   0.4    4      430
i2   34.2   5       0      9.029    1900   0.3    23     10     0.42
i2   34.23  5       0      9.01     2100   0.2    20     6      0.29
i2   36     5       0      13.027   3500   0.5    27     9      0.38
i2   36.05  5       0      12.119   3399   0.1    21     3      0.30
i2   36.12  5       0      13.018   3709   0.4    17     12     0.33
i99  38.2   10.8    2
i2   38.2   7.3     0      8.062    5900   0.4    19     13     0.26
i2   38.4   7       0      7.077    4730   0.6    26     21     0.23
i4   38.9   3.1     0      10.001   2600   2000   3000   46     0.3
i4   39.7   2.3     0      9.0119   1200   1000   2000   50     0.2
s
;==============================================================================; 
;========================= SECTION III: 56 SECONDS ============================;
;==============================================================================; 
i98  0      42
i99  0      42      0.0618
i9   0      7       0.6    11.031   1100   0.2    30     40
i9   0.1    7       0.2    11.042   1100   0.9    26     37
i9   0.3    6.2     0.9    11.049   1105   0.1    32     29
i9   0.6    5.8     0.4    11.021   1110   0.6    41     34
i11  3.7    8       0.2    5.02     2200   0.2
i13  7.0    4.5     0.4    11.064   1500   40.0   7
i9   9.3    9       0.8    7.098    1300   0.3    33     27
i9   9.8    7       0.2    7.087    1400   0.7    39     31
i2   10.9   4       0.2    8.113    5000   0.9    45     20     1
i11  12     5       0.2    4.101    3300   0.3
i2   12.9   5       0.2    9.108    5900   0.4    59     14     0.6
i8   15     4.7     2.5    8600     8900   900    13     11.1   0.7
i11  17.9   7       0.4    4.091    3000   0.1
i9   22     7       0.6    10.031   1000   0.2    30     40
i9   22.1   7       0.2    10.042   1000   0.9    26     37
i9   22.3   6.2     0.9    10.049   1005   0.1    32     29
i9   22.6   5.8     0.4    10.021   1010   0.6    41     34
i11  25.2   5.3     0.3    5.111    2500   0.2
i11  26.9   5.1     0.2    4.093    2330   0.1
i13  27.1   4       0.4    12.064   2000   40     7
i13  28.9   4       0.4    11.117   2000   30.0   5
i9   29.3   9       0.8    8.098    1000   0.3    33     27
i9   30.8   7       0.2    8.087    1200   0.7    39     31
i9   31.2   7.2     0.9    8.071    1400   0.9    29     40
i2   32.9   5       0.9    8.113    5000   0.8    45     20     1
i8   33.1   7       2      5000     6000   1000   17     15     0.3
i2   33.3   6       0.9    7.097    5100   0.5    51     18     0.3
i11  34     5       0.3    4.111    2000   0.5
i8   34.5   6       2      3000     100    500    8.3    9.8    0.1
i2   34.9   6       0.9    9.108    2900   0.4    59     14     0.4
i2   35     5       0.9    8.042    2800   0.6    39     20     0.3
i11  36.1   5       0.5    3.119    1200   0.4
i11  36.8   7       0.2    5.118    1800   0.4
i11  38     6       0.2    4.031    2000   0.2
i11  39     4       0.3    6.003    1300   0.1
i99  42     3.6     8.3
i4   42     1       9.6    13.061   3000   8000   20     10     0.9
i4   42     0.99    9.6    13.013   3110   6000   30     6      0.3
i4   42     1.01    9.6    12.119   2999   10000  25     15     0.7
i5   43     1.1     9.6    3.106    2500   0.4    1.0    8      3    17  34
i5   43.1   1       9.6    4.034    2500   0.2    0.1    2      7    19  29
i99  45.6   4.9     3.2
i5   45.6   3       3.2    4.022    2300   0.3    1.0    11     4    20  37
i5   46.1   2.4     3.2    3.049    2400   0.2    0.1    5      8    19  27
i99  50.5   5.5     8.3
i4   50.5   0.7     11     11.059   3000   7000   40     9      0.9
i4   50.5   0.7     11     10.038   3000   10000  20     20     0.7
i4   50.5   0.71    11     13.077   3000   9500   25     5      0.8
i4   50.52  0.64    11     12.016   3000   8500   18     14     0.5
i5   51     1.5     11     4.011    2000   0.1    1.0    3      11   13  28
i5   51     1.5     11     3.106    2000   0.4    0.1    7      5    15  34
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;==============================================================================; 
;========================= SECTION IV: 100 SECONDS  ===========================;
;==============================================================================; 
;========================= VARIABLE TEMPO =====================================;
t 0 60 40 60 45 30 49 40 52 90 55 100 58 160 59 200 61 230 65 270 78 40
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i99  0      1       2.8
i4   0      1       6.8    12.013   3700   9000   40     17     0.5
i4   0.01   1       6.8    12.061   3501   8500   30     20     0.3
i4   0.02   1       6.8    11.119   3399   7780   32     22     0.8
i4   0.03   1       6.8    12.042   3010   8600   41     27     0.45
i99  1      3.4     9.8
i12  1      3       6.8    5.06     1000   100    7000   16     0.2
i12  1.03   2.9     6.8    5.02     1000   60     6000   30     0.2
i99  4.4    3.6     4.8
i12  4.4    2.6     6.8    11.09    2000   1000   200    5      0.1
i99  8      2.1     7
i4   8      0.9     11     10.013   3000   9000   40     17     0.9
i4   8.1    0.9     11     10.061   3001   8500   30     20     0.8
i4   8.2    0.9     11     10.119   2999   7780   32     22     0.7
i99  10.1   1.1     21
i12  10.1   0.6     11     11.02    1000   1500   300    4      0.2
i99  11.2   6.8     2
i10  11.2   6       0      4.092    3000   0.3    6.9    200
i10  11.2   10      0      4.113    3000   0.1    7.2    278
i12  13     1.6     0.3    10.01    3000   2000   500    5.2    0.2
i10  13     1.6     0.4    9.012    3000   0.3    21     31
i4   15     0.7     0.4    13.023   5000   9000   40     17     0.9
i4   15     0.7     0.4    13.081   5001   8500   30     20     0.3
i4   15     0.7     0.4    13.019   4999   7780   32     22     0.7
i4   15     0.7     0.4    13.079   4550   9699   50     30     0.5
i4   15.7   1       0.4    9.013    1101   9000   40     17     0.9
i4   15.7   1       0.4    10.051   1051   8500   30     20     0.6
i4   15.7   1       0.4    7.119    1111   7780   32     22     0.2
i4   15.7   1       0.4    8.099    1100   10000  100    27     0.8
i12  17     2       0.4    9.02     3000   3000   1000   4      0.3
i99  18     3       9.3
i10  18     5       0      11.09    900    0.4    23     33
i10  18.1   5       0      11.08    900    0.4    20     40
i10  18.3   5       0      11.073   900    0.4    30     27
i10  18.6   5       0      11.068   900    0.4    33     33
i10  19     10      0      11.001   500    0.8    8      200
i10  20     9       0      11.022   500    0.8    9      300
i10  20.4   8.6     0      11.091   500    0.8    5      223
i99  21     56      0.15
i10  21     18      0      11.115   500    0.8    6.4    311
i10  21.6   17.4    0      12.041   500    0.8    7      276
i10  21.9   2.9     0      5.002    2000   0.3    4.1    200
i10  25.3   3.5     0      5.031    2300   0.5    3.6    160
i10  30.9   3.9     0      5.017    2500   0.7    3      100
i10  36.3   6.1     0      4.097    1770   0.8    4      200
i10  42     34.09   0      4.0017   6000   0.19   4.1    310
i8   45     26.9    0.79   190      500    11     1.9    2.7    0.1
i8   49     22.9    0.80   10000    8000   300    11     12.6   0.2
i8   52     19.1    0.85   7000     10000  16     4.1    4.8    0.3
i8   55     16.9    0.91   500      190    10     2.9    1.3    0.2
i8   58     13.9    0.98   40       9000   379    33     19     0.1
i8   60     12.9    0.99   3600     11000  19     17     22     0.3
i8   61     11.9    1.01   2000     3000   30     4      18.8   0.2
i99  77     23      0.09
i4   77     1.7     0.3    13.079   850    9699   50     30     0.8
i10  77.1   2.14    0      13.03    600    0.5    60     26
i10  77.6   2.3     0      13.02    800    0.6    62     24
i10  78.3   9.9     0      5.004    900    0.2    4.1    160
i10  78.7   9.8     0      5.001    800    0.3    1.4    220
i2   80.4   9       0      7.077    930    0.8    26     21     0.23
i2   80.7   8       0      8.077    830    0.7    24     19     0.13
i4   81.9   1.9     0.7    11.079   950    7699   40     20     0.7
i4   82     2.8     0.5    10.079   850    5699   60     40     0.5
i10  82.11  5.3     0      3.053    1800   0.1    4.0    210
i10  82.14  3.8     0      4.048    1100   0.2    71     33
i10  82.32  3.1     0      5.049    1000   0.2    68     27
i10  82.06  2.9     0      5.051    900    0.2    72     31
i10  84.04  9.9     0      4.003    1800   0.1    4.1    160
i10  84.06  9.8     0      4.002    1900   0.3    1.4    220
i10  84.618 9.8     0      5.005    900    0.4    4.1    180

jopy · Post by **jopy** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:28 pm

not sure if this is relevant, but there are a couple of ensembles in reaktor that use images as sequencers. in 'life' (one of the standard sequencers) you can draw a picture and the system makes permutations on it, and i know florian erdle and daniel battaglia have made some picture sequencers.

examples:

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:53 am

(Thanks jmeier; thos are in the same sort of direction Im heading in myself)

Prompted by Trevor Wishart's 'On Sonic Art', here's the first of a couple of examples of notation based on neumes...

This one is from Western religious chanting, and this use of neumes dates back to the 9thC or so

Wishart also has some examples of Tibetan Buddhist chanting notated with neumes, but I cant find an online example at the moment. I'll maybe scan one from Wishart.

Nev · Post by **Nev** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:43 pm

Don't think these are really what your after, but saw this posted on MusicThing today.

http://thrillingwonder.blogspot.com/200 ... cores.html

Nev

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:02 pm

Nev wrote:Don't think these are really what your after, but saw this posted on MusicThing today.

http://thrillingwonder.blogspot.com/200 ... cores.html

Nev

Thanks; I saw it as well; was tempted to post a couple.

jopy · Post by **jopy** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:40 pm

ah, for lovely scores, check the pdf files posted at the bottom of brian ferneyhough's wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Ferneyhough

that's enough to give a guitarist an aneurism, innit?

(btw: when he was in his twenties, rachmiel was one of ferneyhough's students, which is indirectly how i came to hear of mr. f)

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:48 pm

thats a point sean, i bet rachmiel would be good to point at this thread.
also not sure if any of the stuff hes written in cm may be of use?

Gregjazz · Post by **Gregjazz** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:56 pm

MadBrain wrote:I like this one: Rousseau/Chinese/"Jianpu" notation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbered_musical_notation

It displays the musical relationships very clearly, or at least a lot more directly than staff notation: the tonic is written simply as "1" for instance. (the system is also instant "numbered bass" too)

I've played using this notation before. The disadvantages for rhythms using it were just too great for me.

Mies · Post by **Mies** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:59 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:Thanks folks. Anybody know of anything interesting in the software arena?

I can only think of PWGL; it includes an interesting notational frontend called ENP.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:37 pm

theres a chapter in william russos "composing music, a new approach" called picture music, not overly indepth but for anyone interested in trying it out a great start(book also covers many more standard approachs so i would suggest it as a good all rounder too)

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:30 am

vurt wrote:theres a chapter in william russos "composing music, a new approach" called picture music, not overly indepth but for anyone interested in trying it out a great start(book also covers many more standard approachs so i would suggest it as a good all rounder too)

Thats bizarre; I just added that (and one called 'Music and Mathematics: From Pythagoras to Fractals') to my ever-expanding-list-o-stuff at Amazon.

Nonstandard notation systems