Reacomp

[koolkeys]

Haha, thanks guys!









Can't wait to see how this one turns out

[koolkeys]

His popcorn is bigger then ours.

But does it sound like analogue popcorn?

[shamann]

[bduffy]

WTF did I say now?

Nice graphic, btw.

[koolkeys]

[Kingston]

Again, we arent talking about automode here

yes we are, but like I said, you're free to completely ignore this aspect of the compressors. look at popular compressor designs (the schematics I mean) and you will spot this everywhere, including on the ones you have already "covered".

ReaComp has an auto-release of sorts, but not an auto attack

and that's apparently enough to emulate the env. capacitor network (read: automode) design of three completely different compressor topologies. jeez, the things you learn here. I had no idea you can do that!

The attacks are going to be plenty fast for the most part that the actual shape will have LITTLE bearing, if any on the character of the compressor

and now we just can't continue anymore.

go sit in the corner!

WTF did I say now?

just a general observation on these type of threads, nothing to do with you.

[ouroboros]

Holy crap!!


we just got pwnd1!!1!11

[Marduchk]

well, if you look for google pipelineaudio

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... elineaudio

then go to http://noisevault.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=23

and go to studioz - http://www.studiozpro.com - he must know what hes talking about -- but perhaps kingston knows a little more? But not have same clients

need to say i cant bare to watch

[Pipelineaudio]

So thats a no, you cannot attack my premise, so you must attack me personally Kingston?

Nice

[Kingston]

hope the god bmanic never finds this thread.

So thats a no, you cannot attack my premise

I can, but you haven't understood much of what I've written this far. It's pointless to continue.

I'll see you at prodigy pro forums if you actually want to learn more. That place is probably the only place for this type of shop talk anyway, and where more than two people can take part in the discussion.

[koolkeys]

well, if you look for google pipelineaudio

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... elineaudio

then go to http://noisevault.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=23

and go to studioz - http://www.studiozpro.com - he must know what hes talking about -- but perhaps kingston knows a little more? But not have same clients

need to say i cant bare to watch

Doesn't prove anything, does it? Registered at many forums?

Pipeline isn't an idiot, but just being registered at forums and showing up in google doesn't mean he's always right. Just pointing it out how silly it is to assume that.

Now, where were we? Whose attack envelope was bigger then whos?

[Marduchk]

haha i said i would not watch but i didnt say he was right, just said he impressed with battery of clients

[bduffy]

WTF did I say now?

just a general observation on these type of threads, nothing to do with you.

Pardon, I got the wrong idea. I'll leave you to...whatever it is...you guys are talking about...

[johnnypig]

Why dont you tell me where I got it wrong smartass

walk the road of attack and release shapes (and their program dependency) and study the transfer curves in detail. Take in account a least two main forms of release program dependencies, and how that might affect peak and RMS ratios, which also happen to have a bearing on the transfer curves.

Then you will eventually run to the brick wall of very fast attack speed vs. distortion vs. rectification ripple in various forms of feedback topologies.

Let's not even get into the nearly uncharted territory of vari-mu digital emulations, which you so casually blanketed under "tube compression".

Then along comes capacitor/resistor networks in attack and release shaping with several standard forms of "auto" modes with serial or parallel topologies.

"fun"

understand any of the above concepts and the pretense of replicating much of it without actually programming your own plugin stops there and then.

couple of smatass dickheads that can do nothing but talk shit. Why dont you show me whats up

some of us smartass dickheads also have our feet pretty firmly on the ground.

Firstly, the compression amplifier in the mc77 comes before the attack/release setting, and they are not fed back, thus they have no bearing on the actual compression gradient/transfer function. That's a fixed value on a switched voltage divider of 4, 8, 16, etc. In a feed back amplifier this wouldn't be the case. So walk the road to your nearest library.

The brick wall we'll eventually run into with very fast speed (speed and audio frequencies gimme a break this ain't a microwave), and distortion are another matter in the actual attack/release controls, but mostly I'm really concerned with why you think ripple affects the detector. This is disconcerting, as firstly, the detector runs unity buffers between stages, and secondly the unit is very well regulated against AC ripple superimposed on the non-rectified DC portion of the power supply. Ripple can't be greater than 5mV in this guy. Plus it's only 30VDC.

So let's peel ourselves off the brick wall we've hit at 20hz - 20khz and walk down the road of vari-mu. This is not esoteric or black art engineering, it's a very simple and basic inverted twin to sharp cut off transfer functions. All vari-mu is is a nice, smooth gradient in the transfer function that doesn't hit maximum dissipation in 1VAV (ok 10VAC) of input, or external circuitry controlling said function. Not desirable everywhere, and really not a feature of the mv77. It is a feature of an LA2A, and the Manley Vari-Mu limiter, and a ton of others.

Lastly, filter "networks". Well this unit hasn't really got anything I'd refer to as a network, like a Pultec, but it has some basic 1/2piRC hpf/lpf filters. It's not an equalizer though it does feature a side chain input. And before you worry about ripple in RC filters, don't bother as they've got plenty of it and that's usually gone by the time it comes out the goesoutta of an active device, like a 2n5088 or a triode.

Rob

[Marduchk]

i think i need stronger popcorn