LUNA PreRelease 6

[Bonteburg]

Hm nice release!

I found one minor graphics bug though, the volume meters don't seem to represent what's going on soundwise at all, instead they behave kind of erratic and goofy.

A few examples - I have this perfectly normalized kickloop where every kick peaks at the same level, but the meters are sometimes way up in the red, sometimes not even half the way up (on a kick to kick basis so to speak ).

I load up a drum sample into RMV and pencil in one note each bar, all at 127, no effects, no release envelope bleeding into the next note - same phenomenon.

I get the same issue with just about any synth I have from the CM series to Expert Sleepers to MDA Piano.

MArco

[muzycian]

1. Tritone Digital's PhaseTone and ColorTone VSTs cause a crash when I try to load them with the VST manager.

I installed the Pluggo runtime and the PhaseTone.

When adding it in the Plugin Manager (LUNA PR6) i get a neat message from Pluggo that LUNA doesn't support vst 2.4 yet, but no crash.

Indeed, LUNA does not yet fully supports vst 2.4. It's on the whishlist.

2. Trying to select a rack from any of the Pre or Post slots in a differnt rack causes a crash.

Indeed

Fixed in the next release.

3. Double clicking on a midi part to open the midi editor and moving the red Start flag to a different location causes a crash.

True

Fixed in the next release.

The next release will be available later today/tomorrow to fix these issues.

[muzycian]

Hm nice release!

I found one minor graphics bug though, the volume meters don't seem to represent what's going on soundwise at all, instead they behave kind of erratic and goofy.

A few examples - I have this perfectly normalized kickloop where every kick peaks at the same level, but the meters are sometimes way up in the red, sometimes not even half the way up (on a kick to kick basis so to speak ).

I load up a drum sample into RMV and pencil in one note each bar, all at 127, no effects, no release envelope bleeding into the next note - same phenomenon.

I get the same issue with just about any synth I have from the CM series to Expert Sleepers to MDA Piano.

MArco

Yo Marco

I remember that you fed back the same issue in the beginning of LUNA.

Strange thing is that it only seems to happen on your system, no other mac users messaged anything like this.

Got no clue what's going on...

[muzycian]

Bonte,

What's your system configuration?

-> Type of Mac?
-> Sound device?

[pljones]

It was first the intention to hide it (since not very relevant?), but atoh it's cute to have it there
What do you think is best: leave it or hide it?

I think it's cute (and possibly handy if you're trying to play some complex rhythm and want that extra assistance). And it means the .musession I linked above didn't need any external sound source

[pljones]

Strange thing is that it only seems to happen on your system, no other mac users messaged anything like this.

Jo, it's definitely something I notice on my PC with percussive tracks. The meter tracking / transient detection seems to be too slow.

It's as if it's sampling every so often to see what the current level is, rather than tracking in real-time. It's probably not showing up on non-percussive tracks where there's a reasonably constant level with some peaking, as the rise and fall are within the detector's "sample rate".

[muzycian]

It was first the intention to hide it (since not very relevant?), but atoh it's cute to have it there
What do you think is best: leave it or hide it?

I think it's cute (and possibly handy if you're trying to play some complex rhythm and want that extra assistance). And it means the .musession I linked above didn't need any external sound source

Yeah, it's in fact LUNA's first internal synth

Btw, nice rhythm you made there

[Bonteburg]

hmm, sounds like a fair explanation Peter! At least with percussive tracks it would be much more obvious.

Jo:
G4, Mac OSX 10.3.9

Marco

[pljones]

Btw, nice rhythm you made there

I like the little light show in the rack meters

[muzycian]

Strange thing is that it only seems to happen on your system, no other mac users messaged anything like this.

Jo, it's definitely something I notice on my PC with percussive tracks. The meter tracking / transient detection seems to be too slow.

It's as if it's sampling every so often to see what the current level is, rather than tracking in real-time. It's probably not showing up on non-percussive tracks where there's a reasonably constant level with some peaking, as the rise and fall are within the detector's "sample rate".

Indeed, got it.

Thanks for your accuracy.

Meters will be improved.

[muzycian]

Can I make one plea regarding the GUI. Every time I get close to finishing a skin for Luna something happens in the development of the GUI to set me back. When you dropped LooxTeak (which I had used as a template for my own skin) in favour of LooxShark I basically had to start again from scratch. This time you have made one very small but significant change to the VU meter in the Rack since PR5.

No, no change there from PR5 -> PR6.

Calum, my apologizes, i mis-interpreted this a bit.

I wanted to say: no there has been no change regarding the displaying of a meter between PR5 and PR6, which indeed is correct.

But i do understand your request, and it will be implemented in the next release, LUNA PR8, which is the hybrid combi of LUNA Classic and LUNA Modular. To be released one of these days

[Bonteburg]

btw Jo .. tight fix of the level meter problem!!

Customers eh...

reporting all the bugs, silently taking the bugfixes as they come, my apologies.
Marco

[muzycian]

Thanks Bonte