KVR Audio

funkychickendance · Post by **funkychickendance** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:36 pm

I never go to stores. Why pay for their overhead costs? Personally, I've been impressed online by audioMIDI.com and ScitScat at different times.

I tend to think of Rex as a purely Reason thing, but I'm noticing that it works inside FL Studio as well. I'm going to give some thought to this, since I have several multi-format collections with .rx2s in them.

/funxi

vir2 · Post by **vir2** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:15 am

REX works inside Stylus RMX too. In fact RMX is probably the most popular REX host out there at the moment.

thegoldenchild · Post by **thegoldenchild** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:35 am

Yeah we were in the same boat, trying to find ethnic indian samples to use. But than after launching our label, we decided to hit the market with our release.

If anyone wants to check it out and support, the CD audio clips are found by logging onto:

www.goldenchildrecords.com

CD TITLE: The Desi Beat Factory 3

We have used Swar before pretty good VST but its a VST nonetheless...

Thoughts?

keyman_sam wrote:Hi adit, I'm from india too. What we have a need for is, loops from various regions - bhangra, koothu, hindustani, carnatic mridangam/tabla, etc. If you can do live instrument loops of these AND make rhtyhm kits of most of the indian perc. instruments, then the CD is worth 99 dollars.

Make it various formats - akai, roland, kontakt, wav, etc. I'd buy the akai one, just because its easy for me if its all already mapped.

keyman_sam · Post by **keyman_sam** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:56 am

thegoldenchild wrote:Yeah we were in the same boat, trying to find ethnic indian samples to use. But than after launching our label, we decided to hit the market with our release.

If anyone wants to check it out and support, the CD audio clips are found by logging onto:

www.goldenchildrecords.com

CD TITLE: The Desi Beat Factory 3

We have used Swar before pretty good VST but its a VST nonetheless...

Thoughts?

keyman_sam wrote:Hi adit, I'm from india too. What we have a need for is, loops from various regions - bhangra, koothu, hindustani, carnatic mridangam/tabla, etc. If you can do live instrument loops of these AND make rhtyhm kits of most of the indian perc. instruments, then the CD is worth 99 dollars.

Make it various formats - akai, roland, kontakt, wav, etc. I'd buy the akai one, just because its easy for me if its all already mapped.

Just listened to your audio demo. Here are some comments if you dont mind me being totally honest. I like the tabla loop. If i bought your CD, I would want the CD to be filled with ONLY live percussion loops like those. The flute was uber-cheesy. If it was from a live player, it would not have been cheesier, but it just screamed cheesy. I dont want stuff like that because I can sequence the same thing in my fantom. What i CANT sequence is the natural original playing of tablas, mridingam because, even if i did sequence those things, it would sound mechanical. There's nothing comparable to a live player. The clarity of your demo is very good. Clean and professional. My opinion is that, just record live percussion instrument players covering a variety of genres and tempii, and you'll have quite a hot-seller, especially for that price. Infact, your price is quite sensible that even a college kid like myself can buy it without breaking the bank.

thegoldenchild · Post by **thegoldenchild** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:12 am

Thanks for your reply appreciate it and glad you checked out the CD.

The flute sample isnt on the CD itself, it was just put into the "audio demo" for added flavour. The entire CD is pretty much like the tabla samples you heard and dhol/dholki that was played live. Than you have tumbi (from panjab) and algoze samples (from panjab) which you can drop into your hardware/software sampler (i.e. Kontakt) and trigger your own melodies via midi controller...

I appreciate the honesty! Yeah the price we set pretty reasonable on purpose because we rather have the whole music industry grow together and have the market flood with great sounding music so why place a product so high in price where only the select few producers can use. Than we have just "select" few good music hehe.

let me know if you have anymore questions!

funkychickendance · Post by **funkychickendance** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:00 pm

thegoldenchild wrote: The entire CD is pretty much like the tabla samples you heard and dhol/dholki that was played live. Than you have tumbi (from panjab) and algoze samples (from panjab) which you can drop into your hardware/software sampler (i.e. Kontakt) and trigger your own melodies via midi controller...let me know if you have anymore questions!

My guess is that this will sell better if you spell out some basic info along the lines of

number of samples and/or loops (be specific, and ideally list them by type)
total MBs in the package
sample rate?
16-bit, 24-bit?
format: WAV, or something else?

Even though $15 is not much dough, it's still money, honey. In the past, I've bought things for less that I've regretted stumping up for, and conversely gotten extreme bargains at this price. I've gotten beyond gambling, and your demo is interesting but not compelling

/funxi

Elakhna · Post by **Elakhna** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:00 am

Your poll question says $99; I feel that that's way too much. Personally, if the only good Indian drum loop library were a hundred bucks, I would buy/find a single loop and slice it up. What you want is to find the defining quality in your sample CD that sets it outside of all the amateur American-[Asian]Indians who took together some drums at music school at university, recorded the sounds, made a crappy loop, and put it on the Internet. Is it going to be the extensiveness? Even the lowly Sony Media Software loop packages have 500+ MB and it is $30... How big are you talking about? Is the $99 going to be downloadable? What distribution? As said above, elaborate more and clarify your marketing objective

dave2 · Post by **dave2** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:55 am

+1 for the product. I would like wav files or Rex2 files. Price: $29.99 ... that sounds like a fair price....

thanks for your time and consideration

dave

thegoldenchild · Post by **thegoldenchild** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:01 pm

Thanks for the suggestion. We will be updating the page tonight to reflect some of the suggestions you gave. Our CD has been doing well as since we are in its 3rd release and a major label picked it up for UK distribution so we are excited about it. But now we are offering digital downloads.

Thanks again for the suggestion! To answer your questions:

sample rates: 24KBIT
format: .wav
# of samples: 97
loops & live instrumentation (tabla etc..) & string samples (tumbi)

thegoldenchild · Post by **thegoldenchild** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:02 pm

Our product or just the poll question?

dave2 wrote:+1 for the product. I would like wav files or Rex2 files. Price: $29.99 ... that sounds like a fair price....

thanks for your time and consideration

dave

pw · Post by pw » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:28 pm

thegoldenchild wrote:Our product or just the poll question?

My suggestion would be for you to start your own thread if you want to talk about your product. This thread was clearly started by a developer with ideas for his own productions, and its 'not cricket' to now be talking up your own, IMO.

I have no real interest either way, I just think it is good ethics between developers, is all.

Karmacomposer · Post by **Karmacomposer** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:26 am

vir2 wrote:REX works inside Stylus RMX too. In fact RMX is probably the most popular REX host out there at the moment.

This would be AWESOME in Stylus RMX!

Rex2 format for sure.

Mike

thegoldenchild · Post by **thegoldenchild** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:14 am

Oh sorry I did not realize it was some other developer. My apologies. I saw "indian sample cd" and thought I just mention something about ours.

Thanks for pointing that out.

pw wrote:
thegoldenchild wrote:Our product or just the poll question?
My suggestion would be for you to start your own thread if you want to talk about your product. This thread was clearly started by a developer with ideas for his own productions, and its 'not cricket' to now be talking up your own, IMO.

I have no real interest either way, I just think it is good ethics between developers, is all.

Frantixx · Post by **Frantixx** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:21 pm

Like Elakhna mentioned about the (Asian)Americans there are 2 groups. What market do you want to approach?

--> The Americans prefer the Western Sound of the tabla I think (pop-like) while the Asian/Indians might prefer the more authentic way of playing (not the simple 4/4 rhythm). If you choose the second option it might be that the western ppl don't feel much for it, because they can't use it for their productions...

I hope I made it clear

sudhin prabhakar · Post by **sudhin prabhakar** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:14 pm

multi format is the only way to go nowadays and 29 USD seems the appropriate price for a start up company to spread the word faster,99$ seems a bit steep unless your quality is pristine.
Ik Multimedia has a great idea to offer a format converter software bundled with the product so you can dial in your format of choice and install the format on your drive - simple and easy on storage space too.

Swar lacks multisample hits an its evident when you listen to fast rolls that exhibit the dreaded machine gun effect that multiample sounds avoid.

KVR Audio

Indian percussion loops and samples

Is there a need for Bollywood sounds sample CD?