KVR Audio

kyrre · Post by **kyrre** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:07 pm

Lagrange wrote:The problem with just looping the end is that you tend to get a daaaadadadadada sound instead of daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..

Hey man thanks a lot for helping out

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:39 pm

kyrre wrote: Would you happen to know if Sound Forge has a similar alternative?

Sorry, no idea. But WaveLab is rather famous for it's loop-point functionality.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:35 pm

Why not just use a buffer freeze then instead like specMonkyageSt.dll stereo (sorry no link).. I was going to say this b4 but figured you wanted to retain the timbre of the tail..

EDIT: whoops HERE it is.

I wrote: Please someone make a gliding stretch plugin..
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MY BAD after doing some extensive searching online I've found that Waves has a plugin called SoundShifter G that does gliding or 0 to x % stretching. Apparently it sounds really natural (better than the algos in Adobe Audition anyway

).. Now if only zplane could do it, it would solve many a length problems.. checking..

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kyrre · Post by **kyrre** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:26 pm

ViktorW wrote:Hey Kyrre, that's a great song, the original i mean. What language is it? Do you know what the singer sings about? The song sounds like a creepy lullaby type, maybe some dark tale of a sailor or so. It's cool.

The language is Norwegian and he's singing about some little girl he wants to be with,
and teach various stuff to, apparently he's all

about her.

Pantsdown666 · Post by **Pantsdown666** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:16 pm

rhythmsickness wrote:yeah I like the edits myself, but you know what you want after all

+1

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:55 pm

kyrre & ViktorW for some sick, rare (forgein/domestic) and obscure songs with some crazy loop points, click my sig where it says still dig the ol record crates. The DJ's rotate the tracks really fast so if you don't hear something you like KEEP LISTENING. YOU WILL BE DELIGHTFULLY SURPRISED trust me!!

PM me if you need playlists info..

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kyrre · Post by **kyrre** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:14 pm

Lagrange wrote:kyrre & ViktorW for some sick, rare (forgein/domestic) and obscure songs with some crazy loop points, click my sig where it says still dig the ol record crates. The DJ's rotate the tracks really fast so if you don't hear something you like KEEP LISTENING. YOU WILL BE DELIGHTFULLY SURPRISED trust me!!

i'm really into that sick, rare shit

however i can't connect to that broadcast

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:05 pm

kyrre what player are you using??

Try this

Or this

kyrre · Post by **kyrre** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:11 pm

winamp in windows, mpg321 in freebsd...

anyway as for the loop, it seems kontakt 2 was made for this kind of thing,
i'll post some results as soon as i get the feel to it

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:13 pm

ok sounds like a plan

kyrre · Post by **kyrre** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:31 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:Would this be sufficient (I could hold it for hours)?
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/temp/sample.mp3

this is quite legendaric...

i've tried for hours to accomplish the same thing in kontakt 2 now but with no luck. despite its brilliant look editor mode, there's just too many possibilities to go through---3000 x 3000 time units---that's 9 freaking million, and that doesn't even guarantee that one finds the perfect loop. like sascha franck did.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:42 am

Dude just use spectral monkeyage (The download link I posted above).. It could not be more simple just find the tail end of sample and choose your FFT size and press FREEZE and there you go..

Heres an example of me 1st getting a nice space in the tail end then using spectral monkeyage to freeze it.. (IM USING AUDIOMULCH BTW). No rocket science here..

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kyrre · Post by **kyrre** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:59 pm

You know how people always save the best for last?

Likewise, I'll save your advice as a last resort, as I was kinda hoping I'd be able to pull this thing off using only Kontakt 2. I think I'll have to start a new thread, I'm sorry if this upsets the KVR elders, but the topic of this thread isn't as specific as I had originally intended.

Thanks again folks!

-- Kyrre

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:45 pm

As said, kyrre, I didn't even try to find an even remotely perfect loop point.
I set a rather random loop, applied a tiny little bit of x-fading (this most likely wouldn't even be necessary) and then just used WaveLabs Wave Equalizer to do the magic.
It's really unique and I have never found anything better (or even similar) to do the same sort of job.

Btw, I must say that Lagranges example, while doing something different, is quite astounding, too.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:35 pm

As per your next question

is there anything else?

.. This one will also do a buffer freeze style kinda like SpecMonk..

Get it here.. More info here

HTH

I think what I like about Sasha's example is that it sounds like you get to keep the stereo phase (which is kind of important if your xfading into the length piece).. I'm analyzing it now...

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My samples are too short. What would a real pro do?