KVR Audio

carrieres · Post by **carrieres** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:33 pm

hi,
i just feel curious and here it is the most used host :
Protools : 70984 members
Sonar : 33052
Live : 22090
Cubase : 20347
Logic : 20000
Samplitude : 5074
Reaper : 3611 ====> i think this is the best progression ever made !!!
NTrack Studio : 2337
Orion : 1091 ==> my prefered host !
Podium : 405

if someone could help with FL studio or traktion ...
i am just amazed by the score of protools
and sad by the poor number of orion members, is there any problem with marketing or price ?
best regards
chris

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:38 pm

Forum member counts are probably influenced by how good or bad the forum software is in the eyes of potential members. How is Orion's board?

Also, some companies work harder than others to emphasize community and work hard to get forum participation. Do the Orion guys push community, publicize it to get attention and invite forum membership?

wrench45us · Post by **wrench45us** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:48 pm

I suspect that 33052 number for Sonar is actually for all Cakewalk forums -- since I get a 33072 (not including banned members) when I ask for members list from any Cakewalk forum.
The overwhelming number would be Sonar users, but that does include users who might have signed on because of Home Studio, Project 5, Kinetic, Instruments etc.

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:49 pm

Forum member counts are also influenced by how easy it is for spambots to register.

But the digi forums are for all digi products aren't they (does that inlcude Avid, too)? And I'd guess forum membership goes back a good many years.

Rick Deckard · Post by **Rick Deckard** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:12 pm

wrench45us wrote: (not including banned members)

jeez how many banned members could there be? did they not have the cross in their sig or something?

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:14 pm

Not all users sign up for the forums?

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:21 pm

How convenient the Orion guy doesn't have FL Forum numbers.

BosseJo · Post by **BosseJo** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:49 pm

From where do these numbers come? Official forums?

carrieres · Post by **carrieres** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:54 pm

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:57 pm

Could be most Orion users prefer KVR (or DOA or whatever) to the official forums. :-}

Debutante · Post by **Debutante** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:47 pm

That stat doesn't really mean anything to me at all. If owners in some way HAD to be members, or were automatically signed up, then it might mean something, but I could almost swear that those numbers are completely irrelevant. I've been to Looptalk all of 2! times since I bought FL three years ago, most recently to download a beta for my first time EVER just before FL7 was officially released. I think people who join forums look for places where they can learn to make music and don't necessarily gravitate to their hosts' homes.

This is my only DAW forum. I think I was signed up at futureproducers as well... in fact before KVR. If I changed hosts it might well still be my only forum. I'm not interested in hearing people complain about the hosts, which is probably what their own forums are for...

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:53 pm

I'm registered at the Cakewalk-forums but eXt is the only host I currently use - go figure - statistics are great*, ain't they?

*actually they are, but the problem is that you usually have to study statistics in order to use them properly - most people think they can throw around a few good sounding numbers and that's about it...

guitarzan · Post by **guitarzan** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:06 pm

jens wrote:I'm registered at the Cakewalk-forums but eXt is the only host I currently use - go figure - statistics are great*, ain't they?

*actually they are, but the problem is that you usually have to study statistics in order to use them properly - most people think they can throw around a few good sounding numbers and that's about it...

Yes, 97.3% of all statistics are completely bogus. 99.8% of all the bogus statistics are used to lend a false sense of precision to an argument or position.

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:16 pm

BosseJo · Post by **BosseJo** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:00 pm

guitarzan wrote:
jens wrote:I'm registered at the Cakewalk-forums but eXt is the only host I currently use - go figure - statistics are great*, ain't they?

*actually they are, but the problem is that you usually have to study statistics in order to use them properly - most people think they can throw around a few good sounding numbers and that's about it...
Yes, 97.3% of all statistics are completely bogus. 99.8% of all the bogus statistics are used to lend a false sense of precision to an argument or position.

You used Excel for that didn't you?

I want a Pie Chart!!!

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