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bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:54 pm

telephone wrote:
bduffy wrote:Good luck with Phatmatik. I found it suffers from all the shortcomings of its competitors.
No problems here for pHatmatik. Also curious what problems you have? The only thing which lacks is tempo sync auditioning of rex2 loops.

I just think it's not quite there in terms of ease-of-use, and what you mentioned. The file browser is a PITA, for instance...I haven't used it in awhile, so I can't recall specifically...maybe I'll download it and see if I can be more specific.

telephone · Post by **telephone** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:56 pm

bduffy wrote:
telephone wrote:
bduffy wrote:Good luck with Phatmatik. I found it suffers from all the shortcomings of its competitors.
No problems here for pHatmatik. Also curious what problems you have? The only thing which lacks is tempo sync auditioning of rex2 loops.
I just think it's not quite there in terms of ease-of-use, and what you mentioned. The file browser is a PITA, for instance...I haven't used it in awhile, so I can't recall specifically...maybe I'll download it and see if I can be more specific.

But with alittle imagination you can figure out how the import of the loop will sound like when you preaudition. This is not a big issue for me really.

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:34 pm

In comparing Rex to Apple Loops and Acidized Wave, here's something that may be interesting to know. Sonic Reality has a line of loop libraries called the "R.A.W" series. That stands for Rex - Apple Loops - Wave. One thing that is unique about these though is that the slices actually match up between the three formats. The reason you don't see that much in libraries is because we had to write proprietary software to be able to author that. So, with the slices in the same spot for each format you could really listen to what happens differently when slowing it down and speeding it up in the various hosts and samplers. (if the slices were in different spots you wouldn't necessarily know if the difference was because of that). Also, if you use Stylus RMX, we did make the rexes comply with the rules of that rex importer (just to know).

Anyway, I know what you mean about Dr. Rex. I like it too. Load it up, mess with it a bit and you've got something quick.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:54 pm

telephone wrote:
bduffy wrote:
telephone wrote:
bduffy wrote:Good luck with Phatmatik. I found it suffers from all the shortcomings of its competitors.
No problems here for pHatmatik. Also curious what problems you have? The only thing which lacks is tempo sync auditioning of rex2 loops.
I just think it's not quite there in terms of ease-of-use, and what you mentioned. The file browser is a PITA, for instance...I haven't used it in awhile, so I can't recall specifically...maybe I'll download it and see if I can be more specific.
But with alittle imagination you can figure out how the import of the loop will sound like when you preaudition. This is not a big issue for me really.

Are you saying I have no imagination!?

Sure, but the actual "PITA" I was talking about was that it's just a lame, old-school browser that's too narrow and hard to navigate. I do think, however, that a beatslicer must be able to audition, and audition in time. It's just lazy to not include it.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:45 pm

Naw bduffy I think he was saying use the feature rich version..

The ultimate REX playa playa!

L

dreaddd · Post by **dreaddd** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:58 pm

hehehe that for instance will accept only rx1 files...Bitshift was complaining A LOT about that in the past on his site
Peace

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:08 pm

Lagrange wrote:Naw bduffy I think he was saying use the feature rich version..
The ultimate REX playa playa!

L

That's too sexy for me.

dreaddd · Post by **dreaddd** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:12 pm

cmon Bduffy you can handle that! im sure you can handle it and use it on a track together with GakStoar and Muon Tau providing the basslines

EDIT of course ONLY you can have access to old .rex files or have the old version of recycle!!

hehe
Peace

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:14 pm

Can anyone say Recycle 1.7? lol

Andywanders · Post by **Andywanders** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:20 am

Xaviero wrote:If you have a Rewire compatible host, then get reason! ten you have Dr REx ! Its what i Use and having reason rewired into Live6 works like a charm.

Exactly what I was gonna say.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:55 am

Squids wrote:In comparing Rex to Apple Loops and Acidized Wave, here's something that may be interesting to know. Sonic Reality has a line of loop libraries called the "R.A.W" series. That stands for Rex - Apple Loops - Wave. One thing that is unique about these though is that the slices actually match up between the three formats. The reason you don't see that much in libraries is because we had to write proprietary software to be able to author that. So, with the slices in the same spot for each format you could really listen to what happens differently when slowing it down and speeding it up in the various hosts and samplers. (if the slices were in different spots you wouldn't necessarily know if the difference was because of that). Also, if you use Stylus RMX, we did make the rexes comply with the rules of that rex importer (just to know).

Anyway, I know what you mean about Dr. Rex. I like it too. Load it up, mess with it a bit and you've got something quick.

Squids, if anyone has mastered the art of the tastefully shameless product plug, it's you!

Seriously, though, that's very interesting! Somehow I missed that that was what "R.A.W." stood for; I thought it was just a neat, tough-sounding monicker, like WWF or something. I didn't realize what the big deal was, and that you guys had kind of re-written the rules!

But this means we're limited to using your loops, and only your loops, right?

Ubiety · Post by **Ubiety** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:56 am

My only gripe with ReCycle is that I keep having to authorize it every time I do some hard drive maintenance. Drives me bananas sometimes.

loachm · Post by **loachm** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:25 am

Ubiety wrote:My only gripe with ReCycle is that I keep having to authorize it everytime I do some hard drive maintenance. Drives me bananas sometimes.

...what I'd like to see would be a Apple Loop & Acidiced Wav-file import, so that the user only would have to check, if he needs all the markers of these formats and save the files to the Recycle format.

User-definable short-cuts for all commands (it's a bit annoying having to use the menu for cropping or normalising a loop).

The possibility to enter the loop length more precisely (just bars & beats are not enough, especially when it comes to drumfills).

The possibility to enter a time-signature yourself (sometimes you like to work with a 11/8 groove or whatever).

The possibility to choose a root key for the midi-export (I usually use C2 for the first slice in my sampler instruments).

Finally a batch conversion tool (for exporting the loops from several Rex-Files to Wav-Files, exporting the Midi-Files, for adjusting the stretch factor of several loops in one click, for normalising a batch of files etc. etc.and so on).

Support of 32bit files.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:22 am

loachm _ You forgot better transient detection (zoom right in tight and you will see what I mean) and ofcourse mirror stretching (unlimited lengths would be really cool)..

L

Ubiety · Post by **Ubiety** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:55 am

Lagrange, you're right about that one. Good points, loachm.

Dr Rex, VST?