Dr Rex, VST?

[telephone]

Does Fhartmatik even allow for drag and drop of REX files into it yet? Or do you gotta still dig deep into the depths of directory tree hell in the GUI still?

L

How old are you?

[Lagrange]

Fhartistically old enough to know that Fhartmatic cannot come close to SRMX..

[telephone]

Fhartistically old enough to know that Fhartmatic cannot come close to SRMX..

I'm glad that i don't have to meet you in public.....

[bduffy]

I just think it's not quite there in terms of ease-of-use, and what you mentioned. The file browser is a PITA, for instance...I haven't used it in awhile, so I can't recall specifically...maybe I'll download it and see if I can be more specific.

But with alittle imagination you can figure out how the import of the loop will sound like when you preaudition. This is not a big issue for me really.

Are you saying I have no imagination!?

Sure, but the actual "PITA" I was talking about was that it's just a lame, old-school browser that's too narrow and hard to navigate. I do think, however, that a beatslicer must be able to audition, and audition in time. It's just lazy to not include it.

Yeah the browser is well lazy written.....especially compared to stylusRMX!!!! The thing i like with pHatmatik is that exporting the midi is so damend easy drag the file into a ableton scene and of you go. With Stylus you can do that too, but the instrument is too complicated for me. I only need the midi and the slices. No effects no chaos designer. I create the roffles by cutting the midi file into peaces and paste them together.

I wonder if you can drag the MIDI into Cubase? No beatslicer does this presently (in Cubase), I don't think? Only the newer drum modules seem capable of this magic feat!

You are wrong about this, pHatmatik does this alt knob together with the save midi button and drag to amidi track. I use it in ableton and used to use it in Cubase. Stylus is doing this too, both in ableton and in cubase.

"alt knob", eh? I'll check it out. Stylus is newer, so that makes sense.

[Meloday]

Does Fhartmatik even allow for drag and drop of REX files into it yet? Or do you gotta still dig deep into the depths of directory tree hell in the GUI still?

L

[telephone]

Does Fhartmatik even allow for drag and drop of REX files into it yet? Or do you gotta still dig deep into the depths of directory tree hell in the GUI still?

L

Is this forum full of kids?

[Squids]

In comparing Rex to Apple Loops and Acidized Wave, here's something that may be interesting to know. Sonic Reality has a line of loop libraries called the "R.A.W" series. That stands for Rex - Apple Loops - Wave. One thing that is unique about these though is that the slices actually match up between the three formats. The reason you don't see that much in libraries is because we had to write proprietary software to be able to author that. So, with the slices in the same spot for each format you could really listen to what happens differently when slowing it down and speeding it up in the various hosts and samplers. (if the slices were in different spots you wouldn't necessarily know if the difference was because of that). Also, if you use Stylus RMX, we did make the rexes comply with the rules of that rex importer (just to know).

Anyway, I know what you mean about Dr. Rex. I like it too. Load it up, mess with it a bit and you've got something quick.

Squids, if anyone has mastered the art of the tastefully shameless product plug, it's you!

Seriously, though, that's very interesting! Somehow I missed that that was what "R.A.W." stood for; I thought it was just a neat, tough-sounding monicker, like WWF or something. I didn't realize what the big deal was, and that you guys had kind of re-written the rules!

But this means we're limited to using your loops, and only your loops, right?

You're never limited to using only our loops. But, I was pointing out (and as it happens it is a good thing I did otherwise some people might have thought our library was in WWF format! ) that our loops are done in a unique way where the slices match up between the three formats (Rex, Apple Loops and Wave). So, yes, if you wanted to maintain precise compatibility between the three formats then our loops are the only ones that work that way. We wrote special software to do it because we couldn't get the results we needed from commercial software out there at the moment. Maybe some day we'll release these tools for the user to apply to their own loops. Right now it's just ugly-looking internal app stuff. But, the results of it are our loops that could be useful in anyone's curiosity about the differences between the three formats.... since you're starting for once from the same relative slice points in each. I might upload some free ones for you guys to check out. There are some up now but they are just Rex I believe.

Also, I knew it was a shameless plug that was borderline relevant. I was more curious to see what you guys were saying about Dr. Rex because we develop refills (the Sonic Refills) and in my experience Dr. Rex is a lot of fun, easy to use and quick to get a result. I agree that part of what makes it great is how it is integrated inside Reason though. But the other part is that it is a straight to the point tool without too many bells and whistles (plus the "mirror stretching" as someone has refered to I think is key and I am surprised so many players and DAWS that "read Rex" don't have this important feature for smoothing the loop slice transitions out).

[Lagrange]

I'm glad that i don't have to meet you in public.....

Agreed! Now can you ..Thanks..
I was just asking if REX files can be dragd into Phatmatik vst.. damm..

One thing that is unique about these though is that the slices actually match up between the three formats. The reason you don't see that much in libraries is because we had to write proprietary software to be able to author that. So, with the slices in the same spot for each format you could really listen to what happens differently when slowing it down and speeding it up in the various hosts and samplers.

our loops are done in a unique way where the slices match up between the three formats (Rex, Apple Loops and Wave). So, yes, if you wanted to maintain precise compatibility between the three formats then our loops are the only ones that work that way.

Maybe some day we'll release these tools for the user to apply to their own loops. Right now it's just ugly-looking internal app stuff.

I'll take some ugly-looking internal over here please! This sounds like it would be an extremely popluar app if its managing all 3 formats. If it could convert either way (bit rates conversions included) I would pay for that! Maybe some beta testing is in order here..

L

[bduffy]

In comparing Rex to Apple Loops and Acidized Wave, here's something that may be interesting to know. Sonic Reality has a line of loop libraries called the "R.A.W" series. That stands for Rex - Apple Loops - Wave. One thing that is unique about these though is that the slices actually match up between the three formats. The reason you don't see that much in libraries is because we had to write proprietary software to be able to author that. So, with the slices in the same spot for each format you could really listen to what happens differently when slowing it down and speeding it up in the various hosts and samplers. (if the slices were in different spots you wouldn't necessarily know if the difference was because of that). Also, if you use Stylus RMX, we did make the rexes comply with the rules of that rex importer (just to know).

Anyway, I know what you mean about Dr. Rex. I like it too. Load it up, mess with it a bit and you've got something quick.

Squids, if anyone has mastered the art of the tastefully shameless product plug, it's you!

Seriously, though, that's very interesting! Somehow I missed that that was what "R.A.W." stood for; I thought it was just a neat, tough-sounding monicker, like WWF or something. I didn't realize what the big deal was, and that you guys had kind of re-written the rules!

But this means we're limited to using your loops, and only your loops, right?

You're never limited to using only our loops. But, I was pointing out (and as it happens it is a good thing I did otherwise some people might have thought our library was in WWF format! ) that our loops are done in a unique way where the slices match up between the three formats (Rex, Apple Loops and Wave). So, yes, if you wanted to maintain precise compatibility between the three formats then our loops are the only ones that work that way. We wrote special software to do it because we couldn't get the results we needed from commercial software out there at the moment. Maybe some day we'll release these tools for the user to apply to their own loops. Right now it's just ugly-looking internal app stuff. But, the results of it are our loops that could be useful in anyone's curiosity about the differences between the three formats.... since you're starting for once from the same relative slice points in each. I might upload some free ones for you guys to check out. There are some up now but they are just Rex I believe.

Also, I knew it was a shameless plug that was borderline relevant. I was more curious to see what you guys were saying about Dr. Rex because we develop refills (the Sonic Refills) and in my experience Dr. Rex is a lot of fun, easy to use and quick to get a result. I agree that part of what makes it great is how it is integrated inside Reason though. But the other part is that it is a straight to the point tool without too many bells and whistles (plus the "mirror stretching" as someone has refered to I think is key and I am surprised so many players and DAWS that "read Rex" don't have this important feature for smoothing the loop slice transitions out).

Good stuff, Squids! So I could use any other loops with R.A.W.

And just to be clear, I was totally poking fun; this is definitely an occasion where information about your product was sorely needed. It's your appropriate timing and candor that prevents it from being a tasteless, shameless plug.

[tech44]

Fhartistically old enough to know that Fhartmatic cannot come close to SRMX..

Especially not in price

or storage size for that matter

[Lagrange]

Is this forum full of kids?

Sterile personality is a sign of a lack of creativity and spontaneity.. Gotta loosen up a bit ya boring stiffneck.. Plus if it is full of kids then what does that make you a old fart? whoops Fhart..

Especially not in price
or storage size for that matter

In this case the you getting what you pay for..

L

[telephone]

Is this forum full of kids?

Sterile personality is a sign of a lack of creativity and spontaneity.. Gotta loosen up a bit ya boring stiffneck..

L

Had a bad day kiddy...

[Lagrange]

Will do gran paww.! Now stop trying to talk to the kiddys before you get arrested ya ol perv.. Let it go already..

R.A.W. sounds like a viable alternative I've been looking for! Thanks guys.

L

[telephone]

Will do gran paww.! Now stop trying to talk to the kiddys before you get arrested ya ol perv.. Let it go already..

R.A.W. sounds like a viable alternative I've been looking for! Thanks guys.

L

[tech44]

Especially not in price
or storage size for that matter

In this case the you getting what you pay for..
L

Can you change the volume, pitch, or filter on each slice separately with Stylus RMX?